From: Wayne on
In article
<24e13c7a-2669-4c78-b9cd-a23b8f9a2a03(a)y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Tom <twalz68225(a)ameritech.net> wrote:

> On Aug 2, 9:00�am, Wayne <way9...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <t2dd56df2rqj5c95j3kdo8u3k4a4bss...(a)4ax.com>,
> > �Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> >
> > > This year's Tour 59s have been on par 71 & par 70 courses. � �
> >
> > > I know par is just a number, and different courses have different
> > > difficulties - David Duval's 59 wasn't in a difficult course.
> > > Certainly a course that has lots of low scores makes a difference
> > > though.
> >
> > > Are people going to asterisk these 59s?
> >
> > Personally, I would stick an asterisk beside Goydos' because it was
> > lift, clean and place that day.
> >
> > Wayne
>
> If I recall correctly, Geiberger's 59 was also lift, clean and place.

I just learned that. Stick an asterisk beside that, too. Lift, clean
and place is not golf. It's entertainment for the fans that would
rather see birdies, than mud balls flying all over the place.

Wayne
From: Frank Ketchum on

"Wayne" <way96ah(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:way96ah-00B617.12295902082010(a)news.astraweb.com...
> In article
> <24e13c7a-2669-4c78-b9cd-a23b8f9a2a03(a)y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
> Tom <twalz68225(a)ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 2, 9:00 am, Wayne <way9...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <t2dd56df2rqj5c95j3kdo8u3k4a4bss...(a)4ax.com>,
>> > Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > This year's Tour 59s have been on par 71 & par 70 courses.
>> >
>> > > I know par is just a number, and different courses have different
>> > > difficulties - David Duval's 59 wasn't in a difficult course.
>> > > Certainly a course that has lots of low scores makes a difference
>> > > though.
>> >
>> > > Are people going to asterisk these 59s?
>> >
>> > Personally, I would stick an asterisk beside Goydos' because it was
>> > lift, clean and place that day.
>> >
>> > Wayne
>>
>> If I recall correctly, Geiberger's 59 was also lift, clean and place.
>
> I just learned that. Stick an asterisk beside that, too. Lift, clean
> and place is not golf. It's entertainment for the fans that would
> rather see birdies, than mud balls flying all over the place.

They could allow lift and clean, setting the ball on a tee for every shot
and rolling the putt line with a rolling pin and you still would rarely see
a 59. There is a reason it has happened so rarely even with not uncommon
lift and clean conditions.



From: dgold1958 on
On Aug 2 2010 8:07 AM, Howard Brazee wrote:

> This year's Tour 59s have been on par 71 & par 70 courses.
>
> I know par is just a number, and different courses have different
> difficulties - David Duval's 59 wasn't in a difficult course.
> Certainly a course that has lots of low scores makes a difference
> though.
>
> Are people going to asterisk these 59s?

I am not going to asterisk anscore below 60. You still have hit it
close and make the putts. A 17 year old kid shot 57 this past week, and
Ishikawa shot a 58. I don't care that they were on courses only 6700
yards long. That is still golfing your ball.

By the way, if the course Duval shot a 59 on was so easy, why weren't
all of the golfers shooting 59?

David

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From: R&B on
On 2010-08-02 08:07:24 -0400, Howard Brazee said:

> This year's Tour 59s have been on par 71 & par 70 courses.
>
> I know par is just a number, and different courses have different
> difficulties - David Duval's 59 wasn't in a difficult course.
> Certainly a course that has lots of low scores makes a difference
> though.
>
> Are people going to asterisk these 59s?


Big deal. I shot 59 yesterday.

Of course I had several holes left to play at the time.

Randy

From: R&B on
On 2010-08-02 11:34:08 -0400, dugjustdug said:

> On Aug 2, 6:12�am, Tom <twalz68...(a)ameritech.net> wrote:
>> On Aug 2, 9:00�am, Wayne <way9...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> In article <t2dd56df2rqj5c95j3kdo8u3k4a4bss...(a)4ax.com>,
>>> �Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> This year's Tour 59s have been on par 71 & par 70 courses. � �
>>
>>>> I know par is just a number, and different courses have different
>>>> difficulties - David Duval's 59 wasn't in a difficult course.
>>>> Certainly a course that has lots of low scores makes a difference
>>>> though.
>>
>>>> Are people going to asterisk these 59s?
>>
>>> Personally, I would stick an asterisk beside Goydos' because it was
>>> lift, clean and place that day.
>>
>>> Wayne
>>
>> If I recall correctly, Geiberger's 59 was also lift, clean and place.-
>> Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I loved Duval's post-round interview. He was asked how he managed to
> make so many Birdie putts and with a sheepish look on his face, he
> said, "Come on, Guys. I was hitting it within 10' all day." I guess
> Mrs. Hogan was right. Heh.


I remember doing play-by-play of that round. After about the 14th
hole, I said, "He could shoot 59." Everybody thought I was nuts.

Randy

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