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From: bigoldcat2 on 3 Aug 2010 09:28 On Aug 3, 7:42 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 15:53:10 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1...(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> Are people going to asterisk these 59s? > > >If it's 70 not 72 because they turned a couple of par 5s into long par > >4s then the score is still the same on the same golf course so equally > >worthy in all respects. > > >Was this the case, or was it just a short course? > > I was wondering the same thing. > Shooting 59 on a par 72 is -13 shooting 59 on a par 71 is -12 shooting 59 on a par 70 is -11 How are they equal?
From: bknight on 3 Aug 2010 09:33 On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 06:28:05 -0700 (PDT), bigoldcat2(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On Aug 3, 7:42�am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 15:53:10 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1...(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Are people going to asterisk these 59s? >> >> >If it's 70 not 72 because they turned a couple of par 5s into long par >> >4s then the score is still the same on the same golf course so equally >> >worthy in all respects. >> >> >Was this the case, or was it just a short course? >> >> I was wondering the same thing. >> > >Shooting 59 on a par 72 is -13 >shooting 59 on a par 71 is -12 >shooting 59 on a par 70 is -11 >How are they equal? Who said that they were? BK
From: nielloeb on 3 Aug 2010 10:59 59 is a number that has psychological significance. I agree that of more significance is whether the 59 is 11, 12, or 13 under par. A 59 is as good Hank Aaron's home run record with differrent distances to the outfield walls than Babe Ruth's record with pitches that didn't come in as fast.
From: zox625 on 3 Aug 2010 12:19 On Aug 2 2010 9:07 AM, Howard Brazee wrote: > This year's Tour 59s have been on par 71 & par 70 courses. > > I know par is just a number, and different courses have different > difficulties - David Duval's 59 wasn't in a difficult course. > Certainly a course that has lots of low scores makes a difference > though. > > Are people going to asterisk these 59s? No, it's almost exactly as difficult to score 59 on a par 70 as a par 72. The difference is generally that a par 72 has more par 5s, which a pro should be birdieing anyway (when scoring conditions make a 59 possible). ________________________________________________________________________� : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
From: Darrell Jefress on 3 Aug 2010 13:11
<bigoldcat2(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:07f6084f-6254-4713-898d-f6aacc5366ac(a)p22g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > Shooting 59 on a par 72 is -13 > shooting 59 on a par 71 is -12 > shooting 59 on a par 70 is -11 > How are they equal? They won't truly be "equal", since they're on different courses and all, but in general, it's tougher to shoot under par on a par 70 than on a par 72 because of the absence of par 5s and the likelihood that they're replaced with tougher-than-normal par 4s, so that 11 under on a 70 is almost as tough as 13 under on a 72. If the goal were to try to identify the best round ever, it would undoubtedly not be one of these rounds. But there's no denying that it's the lowest recorded score. DJJ |