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From: Carbon on 28 Jul 2010 21:11 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:57:46 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-5B21CE.11501528072010(a)news.shawcable.com... > >> Just to emphasize: >> >> "A Department of Justice memo that detailed interrogation techniques >> used on prisoners at Guantanamo Bay notes that in August 2002, >> suspected al-Qaeda official Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 82 times, >> while the following March, 9/11 suspect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was >> waterboarded 183 times. But as the blog Emptywheel points out, >> there's no way to get to those numbers within the CIA's guidelines." >> >> <http://www.newser.com/story/56588/cia-waterboarded-gitmo-detainee-183- >> times-in-a-month.html> > > How bad can it be if u take it 6 times a day. Please tell me you are not serious.
From: Howard Brazee on 28 Jul 2010 21:22 On 29 Jul 2010 00:59:15 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> Most likely true. It seems that governing is different from >> campaigning. > >Very much so. I don't know how much I agree. Politicians keep making decisions to keep campaign money coming. They make "do something" laws that don't accomplish their aims. And they are always campaigning for the next election. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Alan Baker on 28 Jul 2010 23:53 In article <8bbn9kF79eU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-34704C.11163928072010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article <8bb9kdFjh6U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >> news:7gp056pl04msap8osu8hrjcrs1st560vuc(a)4ax.com... > >> > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:11:02 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >>"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >> >>news:4c4f6e86$0$4825$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:58:33 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: > >> >>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:26:34 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>>> And YOU actually SUPPORT keeping Gitmo open! > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Apparently so does Obama. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Yep. The new boss is the same as the old one. > >> >>> > >> >>> I personally think he would close it if he thought he could. > >> >> > >> >>He could do it tomorrow via executive order. > >> > > >> > He already issued an executive order to close Gitmo. Where've you > >> > been? > >> > >> I know he has. The first one must have been lost in the mail. > >> >> > >> >>The problem > >> >>> is there's no practical way to bring the so-called enemy combatants > >> >>> to > >> >>> justice because they have all been tortured. As with the quagmire in > >> >>> the > >> >>> Middle East, he's stuck with the bad decisions of the previous > >> >>> administration. > >> >> > >> >>Tortured, lol! They probably have it better in Gitmo than where they > >> >>came > >> >>from. > >> > > >> > Yeah, waterboarding is a great recreational pastime. You've had it > >> > done to you , right??? > >> > > >> I think you have Abu Ghraib and Gitmo confused. > > > > You know for a fact everything that has been done at Gitmo, do you? > > > Ah yes the typical liberal guilty until proved innocent theme. Of course you > have proof this was going on there right? !. Guilty until proven innocent is a right that individuals have, not the state. 2. I'm not passing any judgements, that's you. You're finding the government "innocent" of things with very little evidence of any kind. Certainly you haven't bothered to support your claim. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: John B. on 29 Jul 2010 08:49 On Jul 28, 6:30 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > news:kf5156dom8evh76aa517joiuaso51i73j1(a)4ax.com... > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:38:09 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>On Jul 28, 3:10 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > >>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > <clip> > > >>> I think Abu Ghraib was where they were walking the prisoners like a dog > >>> and > >>> Gitmo was where they were waterboarding. > > >>I think you're assuming that what you've read and heard in the media > >>is the totality of what went on at Gitmo, Abu Ghraib and other places > >>where suspected terrorists have been locked up, some of which we don't > >>even know about. > > > I have to ask you why you jump to a conclusion that Frank jumped to a > > conclusion. He didn't make any assumptions as to the amount of > > punishment given at either place, just his opinions of where two of > > the situations happened. > > His panties are in a knot because he realizes how foolish he has come off in > this thread. Oh my gosh, you've seen right through me! I'm so embarrassed!
From: MNMikeW on 29 Jul 2010 10:01
"William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-FE6CE9.19421028072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <8bbnerF87lU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >> news:alangbaker-5B21CE.11501528072010(a)news.shawcable.com... >> > In article <s5u056paamu17k2aa71hvuvev0ko6goull(a)4ax.com>, >> > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:01:45 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >> >> >news:7gp056pl04msap8osu8hrjcrs1st560vuc(a)4ax.com... >> >> >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:11:02 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>>The problem >> >> >>>> is there's no practical way to bring the so-called enemy >> >> >>>> combatants >> >> >>>> to >> >> >>>> justice because they have all been tortured. As with the quagmire >> >> >>>> in >> >> >>>> the >> >> >>>> Middle East, he's stuck with the bad decisions of the previous >> >> >>>> administration. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>Tortured, lol! They probably have it better in Gitmo than where >> >> >>>they >> >> >>>came >> >> >>>from. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yeah, waterboarding is a great recreational pastime. You've had it >> >> >> done to you , right??? >> >> >> >> >> >I think you have Abu Ghraib and Gitmo confused. >> >> > >> >> I think you're way off. Gitmo was THE waterboarding site. Remember >> >> the guy that was waterboarded over 180 times? That was Gitmo. >> >> >> >> BK >> > >> > Just to emphasize: >> > >> > "A Department of Justice memo that detailed interrogation techniques >> > used on prisoners at Guantanamo Bay notes that in August 2002, >> > suspected >> > al-Qaeda official Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 82 times, while the >> > following March, 9/11 suspect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded >> > 183 times. But as the blog Emptywheel points out, there's no way to get >> > to those numbers within the CIA's guidelines." >> > >> > <http://www.newser.com/story/56588/cia-waterboarded-gitmo-detainee-183-ti >> > mes-in-a-month.html> >> > >> How bad can it be if u take it 6 times a day. > > Why don't you volunteer to be a guinea pig and try it? I think we have a ride at the state fair that does that. |