From: MNMikeW on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
news:3db65615cpe39s1qjhqr94pvjppkrdpn6n(a)4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:46:15 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>>news:cs96565pcht63vii7n6ufcncmpdil3l6k4(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:21:37 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The White House has apologized. Breitbart, who started the mess,
>>>>> hasn't. He's an idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>Breitbarts target was the NAACP, not Sherrod. She made the statements.
>>>>
>>> Try to watch this without your mind being closed and see where the
>>> origins of the problem were.
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=shirley+sherrod&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=nuvo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=mlBITJDrMIS8lQeUlZyiCw&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCUQsQQwAA
>>>
>>> BK
>>
>>Did you see the video posted on Breitbarts site?
>>
> Not on his site, but on news sites. Obviously Sherrod saw them too or
> she wouldn't even think about suing him.
>
Well if you saw what Breitbart had posted, you would have seen that it
included the part where she said she had the revelation that it wasn't about
black and white. She has no case.



From: MNMikeW on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-EDCC5B.13025030072010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <8bgp49Fhh5U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>> news:dra656dounn78rv7lt2qppvaa6sbkal8tl(a)4ax.com...
>> > On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:42:27 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>In article <8bgo0iFaphU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>> >> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > You mean "She made the statements that Breitbart deliberately
>> >>> > distorted", don't you?
>> >>> >
>> >>> Breitbart didn't distort anything.
>> >>
>> >>Yes. He did.
>> >>
>> >>Editing a video so that you leave out information that totally changes
>> >>its meaning is distortion.
>> >
>> >
>> > There's no way to get the far right to view anything without an un
>> > jaundiced eye. "None so blind...." you know.
>> >
>> > BK
>> >
>> Perhaps you two should see it for yourselves.
>>
>> http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/07/19/video-proof-the-naacp-awards-ra
>> cism2010/
>
> Perhaps you should realize that that is not a video of her entire speech
> and even Breitbart now admits it was a distortion of her actions:
>
> "Correction: While Ms. Sherrod made the remarks captured in the first
> video featured in this post while she held a federally appointed
> position, the story she tells refers to actions she took before she held
> that federal position."

This correction has nothing to do with what is on the tape. Just when it was
recorded.
>
> The full video is 43 minutes long.
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9NcCa_KjXk>
>
> Don't you think a real journalist would have reviewed that before
> putting up cherry-picked sections of it and passing judgement?
>
What makes you think he didn't have the whole video?


From: Alan Baker on
In article <8bgpttFmcfU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-EDCC5B.13025030072010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <8bgp49Fhh5U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >> news:dra656dounn78rv7lt2qppvaa6sbkal8tl(a)4ax.com...
> >> > On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:42:27 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>In article <8bgo0iFaphU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > You mean "She made the statements that Breitbart deliberately
> >> >>> > distorted", don't you?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> Breitbart didn't distort anything.
> >> >>
> >> >>Yes. He did.
> >> >>
> >> >>Editing a video so that you leave out information that totally changes
> >> >>its meaning is distortion.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > There's no way to get the far right to view anything without an un
> >> > jaundiced eye. "None so blind...." you know.
> >> >
> >> > BK
> >> >
> >> Perhaps you two should see it for yourselves.
> >>
> >> http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/07/19/video-proof-the-naacp-awards
> >> -ra
> >> cism2010/
> >
> > Perhaps you should realize that that is not a video of her entire speech
> > and even Breitbart now admits it was a distortion of her actions:
> >
> > "Correction: While Ms. Sherrod made the remarks captured in the first
> > video featured in this post while she held a federally appointed
> > position, the story she tells refers to actions she took before she held
> > that federal position."
>
> This correction has nothing to do with what is on the tape. Just when it was
> recorded.

No. The correction has nothing to do with when the video recorded, but
when the events that were described on the tape took place.

> >
> > The full video is 43 minutes long.
> >
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9NcCa_KjXk>
> >
> > Don't you think a real journalist would have reviewed that before
> > putting up cherry-picked sections of it and passing judgement?
> >
> What makes you think he didn't have the whole video?

If he did, that makes his actions even worse, because it has been pretty
much universally agreed that anyone who has seen the whole video could
never have made the claims of racism that Breitbart made.

You're really digging yourself a hole here, Mike, and for what?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on
In article <8bgpp7FlhfU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> news:3db65615cpe39s1qjhqr94pvjppkrdpn6n(a)4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:46:15 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >>news:cs96565pcht63vii7n6ufcncmpdil3l6k4(a)4ax.com...
> >>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:21:37 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> The White House has apologized. Breitbart, who started the mess,
> >>>>> hasn't. He's an idiot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>Breitbarts target was the NAACP, not Sherrod. She made the statements.
> >>>>
> >>> Try to watch this without your mind being closed and see where the
> >>> origins of the problem were.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.google.com/search?q=shirley+sherrod&hl=en&safe=off&client=safar
> >>> i&rls=en&prmd=nuvo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=mlBITJDrMIS8lQeUlZyiCw&s
> >>> a=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCUQsQQwAA
> >>>
> >>> BK
> >>
> >>Did you see the video posted on Breitbarts site?
> >>
> > Not on his site, but on news sites. Obviously Sherrod saw them too or
> > she wouldn't even think about suing him.
> >
> Well if you saw what Breitbart had posted, you would have seen that it
> included the part where she said she had the revelation that it wasn't about
> black and white. She has no case.

That makes it worse, doesn't it?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: bknight on
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:02:57 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
wrote:

>
><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
>news:mfb656lnn3k6l3kud0kfmufbuia7740k81(a)4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:52:27 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>

>> As I said, you seem to want Obama to fail more than you want the
>> country to recover. That's extreme right wing.
>>
>No Bobby you just don't get it. People want the country to recover. The
>majority of us don't think Obama is going to get us there. Hopefully he
>proves us wrong, but I just cant see it right now.
>

What I do get is that this is the first time I've seen any indication
that you (tepidly) wish him well in trying to get us back on track.

BK
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