From: BAR on
In article <o2nc56d5mifd8shdah40u9bhfbasnd90tb(a)4ax.com>, donsno2
@charter.net says...
>
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 22:21:54 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <wclark2-90D54B.21194001082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> >state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >>
> >> In article <MPG.26bfab179fc678af98a189(a)news.giganews.com>,
> >> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >> > The roads are mostly built by the developers and individuals. The
> >> > county, city or state comes along after the road is completed and takes
> >> > over maintenance.
>
> Some of the developers and designers are government employees, and the
> rest are working for the government under contract. Private
> corporations would not be allowed on public rights of way for their
> own operations.
>
> >> > In my county the developers cannot start building houses until they have
> >> > either built the roads or acquired bonds to complete the roads. And, no
> >> > construction can be started on housing developments until schools and
> >> > other infrastructure is built. This is all funded by those new
> >> > homeowners by the levying of special taxes in special taxing districts.
>
> No, usually the new homeowners join the other homeowners on the
> property tax and special district tax rolls. The special taxes are
> not for roads but for special districts such as cemeteries, mosquito
> abatement, and the like, not for general fund obligations as property
> taxes are. Roads, lighting, public buildings, personnel, and the like
> are paid for out of general fund monies.
>
> >> > Do you know what front footage benefit charge is and why you pay it? The
> >> > rates you pay for electricty get the power lines to your house, the
> >> > electric company does not run the lines for free.
>
> >> > So, to answer you question the people pay to have the roads built.
>
> >> Indeed, "the people" pay to have roads built. A communal, socialistic,
> >> decision (developers don;t build interstates, must as you would wish
> >> it). Nice snip of the relevant accusation, though. Saves you another red
> >> face.
>
> >It sucks when you can't say that the Government builds the roads. The
> >government is just the middle man handling the money.
>
> It's the government's money, which you have nicely agreed to provide
> for the privilege of living in the old USA.

And who is the government? The people or at least it used to be.

The government has no money unless it takes it, at the point of a gun,
from the people. Try not paying your taxes and see what happens to you.


From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.26bff5ce5148bedb98a19e(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <wclark2-90D54B.21194001082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.26bfab179fc678af98a189(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <wclark2-7FFEA6.13503501082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > > > > > Bertie, Bertie, your syntax meter seems to be as far out of whack
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > your ethical one. Who builds roads in the US? You?
> > > > >
> > > > > You need to do some research Billy before you ask that question. You
> > > > > would be surprised by what you find.
> > > >
> > > > OK, so who builds the roads you and I drive on? Simple question, but I
> > > > am not surprised you refuse to answer it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Remember you said "roads".
> > >
> > > The roads are mostly built by the developers and individuals. The
> > > county, city or state comes along after the road is completed and takes
> > > over maintenance.
> > >
> > > In my county the developers cannot start building houses until they have
> > > either built the roads or acquired bonds to complete the roads. And, no
> > > construction can be started on housing developments until schools and
> > > other infrastructure is built. This is all funded by those new
> > > homeowners by the levying of special taxes in special taxing districts.
> > >
> > > Do you know what front footage benefit charge is and why you pay it? The
> > > rates you pay for electricty get the power lines to your house, the
> > > electric company does not run the lines for free.
> > >
> > > So, to answer you question the people pay to have the roads built.
> >
> > Indeed, "the people" pay to have roads built. A communal, socialistic,
> > decision (developers don;t build interstates, must as you would wish
> > it). Nice snip of the relevant accusation, though. Saves you another red
> > face.
>
> It sucks when you can't say that the Government builds the roads. The
> government is just the middle man handling the money.

And the "money" is the sole reason roads get built. No tickee, no
shirtee.
From: William Clark on
In article <8bmuc6F11gU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-27495F.05365101082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <MPG.26bf2ff0ab24ec6798a174(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <alangbaker-15E2AB.23062231072010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> > > alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
> > > >
> > > > In article <8bjv3hFufjU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > >
> news:wclark2-DBCC9B.17523931072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > > > > In article <8bj66lFm27U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > > > > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:MPG.26be08094943135398a15f(a)news.giganews.com...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And, superstition is more widely believed and adhered to
> around the
> > > > > > > > world than science.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ask any baseball player. Golfers too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, their superstition does not contribute to their ability at the
> game,
> > > > > > just to how they calm their nerves.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's belief. I didn't claim there was in validity. It's a shot in
> the
> > > > > dark, like atheistic evolution.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Greg
> > > >
> > > > LOL
> > > >
> > > > Evolution is not atheistic or theistic, Greg. It simply is.
> > >
> > > Evolution is a theory.
> >
> > Correct. I'd say at this point it is a theory that is a close to proven
> > as any theory can ever be, but it is still a theory.
> >
> > However, it is neither atheistic nor theistic.
>
> There are those who believe in God and evolution.
>
> -Greg

Which entirely proves Alan's point. Duh.
From: John B. on
On Aug 2, 12:07 am, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>
> news:alangbaker-27495F.05365101082010(a)news.shawcable.com...> In article <MPG.26bf2ff0ab24ec6798a...(a)news.giganews.com>,
> >  BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article <alangbaker-15E2AB.23062231072...(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> > > alangba...(a)telus.net says...
>
> > > > In article <8bjv3hFuf...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > > >  "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:wclark2-DBCC9B.17523931072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > In article <8bj66lFm2...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > > > > >  "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > "BAR" <sc...(a)you.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > >news:MPG.26be08094943135398a15f(a)news.giganews.com...
>
> > > > > > > > And, superstition is more widely believed and adhered to
> around the
> > > > > > > > world than science.
>
> > > > > > > Ask any baseball player.  Golfers too.
>
> > > > > > > -Greg
>
> > > > > > No, their superstition does not contribute to their ability at the
> game,
> > > > > > just to how they calm their nerves.
>
> > > > > It's belief.  I didn't claim there was in validity.  It's a shot in
> the
> > > > > dark, like atheistic evolution.
>
> > > > > -Greg
>
> > > > LOL
>
> > > > Evolution is not atheistic or theistic, Greg. It simply is.
>
> > > Evolution is a theory.
>
> > Correct. I'd say at this point it is a theory that is a close to proven
> > as any theory can ever be, but it is still a theory.
>
> > However, it is neither atheistic nor theistic.
>
> There are those who believe in God and evolution.
>
> -Greg

Including me.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.26bff64e39b56e0198a19f(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <wclark2-585A0F.21243801082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.26bf877e7e67eee698a185(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <wclark2-B74F08.12584701082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Evolution is a theory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Correct. I'd say at this point it is a theory that is a close to
> > > > > > proven
> > > > > > as any theory can ever be, but it is still a theory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, it is neither atheistic nor theistic.
> > > > >
> > > > > According to Science a theory cannot never become a certanty.
> > > > >
> > > > > The F word always comes into play when it comes down to the nunts and
> > > > > bolts.
> > > >
> > > > There is only one "F" word for nutters like you. Tell you what, why
> > > > don't you let us all in on the evidence for the faith-based origins of
> > > > human life?
> > >
> > > Where did the Big Bang originate?
> >
> > From a singularity in the general theory of relativity, which led to an
> > infinitely dense and hot Universe that then expanded.
> >
> > Not with and old man with a long white beard.
>
> "Not with and old man?" It appears that you have pissed on yourself
> again by throwing stones at glass houses.

Not really, it's just that I am so bored with answering your dumbassed
posts that lose concentration.

After all, it is not as if they require any intellectual input to
respond to.
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