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From: bknight on 28 Jul 2010 14:38 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:01:45 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >news:7gp056pl04msap8osu8hrjcrs1st560vuc(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:11:02 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>The problem >>>> is there's no practical way to bring the so-called enemy combatants to >>>> justice because they have all been tortured. As with the quagmire in the >>>> Middle East, he's stuck with the bad decisions of the previous >>>> administration. >>> >>>Tortured, lol! They probably have it better in Gitmo than where they came >>>from. >> >> Yeah, waterboarding is a great recreational pastime. You've had it >> done to you , right??? >> >I think you have Abu Ghraib and Gitmo confused. > I think you're way off. Gitmo was THE waterboarding site. Remember the guy that was waterboarded over 180 times? That was Gitmo. BK
From: John B. on 28 Jul 2010 14:47 On Jul 28, 1:11 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4c4f6e86$0$4825$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:58:33 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: > >> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:26:34 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >>>> And YOU actually SUPPORT keeping Gitmo open! > > >>> Apparently so does Obama. > > >> Yep. The new boss is the same as the old one. > > > I personally think he would close it if he thought he could. > > He could do it tomorrow via executive order. > > The problem > > > is there's no practical way to bring the so-called enemy combatants to > > justice because they have all been tortured. As with the quagmire in the > > Middle East, he's stuck with the bad decisions of the previous > > administration. > > Tortured, lol! They probably have it better in Gitmo than where they came > from. You don't think anybody there has been tortured?
From: Frank Ketchum on 28 Jul 2010 14:57 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4c4fa03f$0$4964$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:58:48 -0500, bknight wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:37:56 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> >> wrote: >>> On 27 Jul 2010 23:40:54 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yep. The new boss is the same as the old one. >>>> >>>> I personally think he would close it if he thought he could. The >>>> problem is there's no practical way to bring the so-called enemy >>>> combatants to justice because they have all been tortured. As with >>>> the quagmire in the Middle East, he's stuck with the bad decisions >>>> of the previous administration. >>> >>> Also, terrorists don't have an authority that we can get to surrender >>> who will get them to surrender. It's like the "war on drugs". >> >> But yet you blame Obama for not closing Gitmo. That was his first >> executive order, remember? > > Personally, I don't hold it against him. I think once he was briefed on > what was really going on he saw how difficult it would be to do. Most likely true. It seems that governing is different from campaigning.
From: Alan Baker on 28 Jul 2010 14:50 In article <s5u056paamu17k2aa71hvuvev0ko6goull(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:01:45 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > wrote: > > > > ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >news:7gp056pl04msap8osu8hrjcrs1st560vuc(a)4ax.com... > >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:11:02 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > > >>>The problem > >>>> is there's no practical way to bring the so-called enemy combatants to > >>>> justice because they have all been tortured. As with the quagmire in the > >>>> Middle East, he's stuck with the bad decisions of the previous > >>>> administration. > >>> > >>>Tortured, lol! They probably have it better in Gitmo than where they came > >>>from. > >> > >> Yeah, waterboarding is a great recreational pastime. You've had it > >> done to you , right??? > >> > >I think you have Abu Ghraib and Gitmo confused. > > > I think you're way off. Gitmo was THE waterboarding site. Remember > the guy that was waterboarded over 180 times? That was Gitmo. > > BK Just to emphasize: "A Department of Justice memo that detailed interrogation techniques used on prisoners at Guantanamo Bay notes that in August 2002, suspected al-Qaeda official Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 82 times, while the following March, 9/11 suspect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times. But as the blog Emptywheel points out, there's no way to get to those numbers within the CIA's guidelines." <http://www.newser.com/story/56588/cia-waterboarded-gitmo-detainee-183-ti mes-in-a-month.html> -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Frank Ketchum on 28 Jul 2010 15:10
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:8bb9kdFjh6U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > news:7gp056pl04msap8osu8hrjcrs1st560vuc(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:11:02 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>news:4c4f6e86$0$4825$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:58:33 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:26:34 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> And YOU actually SUPPORT keeping Gitmo open! >>>>>> >>>>>> Apparently so does Obama. >>>>> >>>>> Yep. The new boss is the same as the old one. >>>> >>>> I personally think he would close it if he thought he could. >>> >>>He could do it tomorrow via executive order. >> >> He already issued an executive order to close Gitmo. Where've you >> been? > > I know he has. The first one must have been lost in the mail. >>> >>>The problem >>>> is there's no practical way to bring the so-called enemy combatants to >>>> justice because they have all been tortured. As with the quagmire in >>>> the >>>> Middle East, he's stuck with the bad decisions of the previous >>>> administration. >>> >>>Tortured, lol! They probably have it better in Gitmo than where they came >>>from. >> >> Yeah, waterboarding is a great recreational pastime. You've had it >> done to you , right??? >> > I think you have Abu Ghraib and Gitmo confused. I think Abu Ghraib was where they were walking the prisoners like a dog and Gitmo was where they were waterboarding. |