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From: William Clark on 2 Aug 2010 20:56 In article <8bormkFd8lU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:18ae96af-e4b9-4bd3-838d-6b74c67da875(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 2, 3:00 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > news:alangbaker-FD89BC.11301202082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > > > In article <8bofofF3j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > How little faith you have in scientists. If it were happening, it > would > > be > > > > observed. > > > > > Sounds like you're the one who has faith. > > > > I think there are sincere scientists out there who would love to observe > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. More importantly, new life would be very undeveloped to compete > > > > > against life that has been evolving for billions of eyes. > > > > > > Think in terms of logic. The ancient collision of matter creates a > > spark of > > > > life, according to evolutionists.. Don't you think that enviroment is > > more > > > > hostile than the one that exists on earth? > > > > > Not to new life, no. > > > > > Scientists have already demonstrated that the chemicals of life arise > > > spontaneously from the elements and compounds that existed on the early > > > earth. > > > > Cite. > > > > > Now the first very simple "lifeform" comes together: what other life is > > > it competing with? > > > > > If such a simple lifeform came into being today, it would be in a > > > environment of thousands and thousands of other microscopic life who > > > would be able to feed on it. > > > > Fine. Then all scientists have to do is "create" the enviroment that this > > life comes from nothing, and then make it sterile from outside predators, > > then observe whether this "life" eats and reproduces. > > > > Trouble is....no life has ever been created in a lab or on earth. Cite > > where it has. > > > > -Greg > > No life has ever been created on earth? What does that mean? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Not since the beginning. Reproduction...yes. But organic life resulting > from the right mix of matter....no. > > -Greg You haven't read much about the Big Bang you are so fond of referring to, have you? It originates from a universe that is infinitely dense and infinitely hot - conditions that no one can reproduce on earth today. Except, probably, your favorite old man with the long white beard.
From: Moderate on 2 Aug 2010 21:48 William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article <MPG.26c113b367f2394c98a1aa(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> In article <clark-745AEB.09212902082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- >> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... >>>>> Indeed, "the people" pay to have roads built. A communal, > > > > > socialistic, >>>>> decision (developers don;t build interstates, must as you would > > > > > wish >>>>> it). Nice snip of the relevant accusation, though. Saves you > > > > > another >>>>> red >>>>> face. >>>> >>>> It sucks when you can't say that the Government builds the roads. > > > > The >>>> government is just the middle man handling the money. >>> >>> And the "money" is the sole reason roads get built. No tickee, no >>> shirtee. >>> >> >> Nice job racist Billy. Does OSU know of your racist views. > > Good - you have now deflected so far off topic that you clearly have > surrendered. About time. > > OSU would laugh you out of court. It is, of course, run entirely by > ultra-left communists and pinkos. That explains alot.
From: John B. on 2 Aug 2010 22:05 On Aug 2, 5:35 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:127d62e7-bc2a-4755-9a0e-c5f89d6c9d72(a)o19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 2, 2:23 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > "BAR" <sc...(a)you.com> wrote in message > > >news:MPG.26bfbd93c85a419c98a197(a)news.giganews.com... > > > > In article <5kqb56diek5m92djb6v60r1ilcpl82i...(a)4ax.com>, donsno2 > > > @charter.net says... > > > > > On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 13:58:09 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 12:56:46 -0400, William Clark > > > > ><wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > >>Oh, and it is not necessary to be an atheist to believe in > evolution. > > > > >>That's just another creationist crock. > > > > > >The big objection isn't in evolution - some evolution was obvious > long > > > > >before Darwin. > > > > > >The objection is in natural selection, as long as "natural" means > "not > > > > >done by God or by Man". And of course, the idea that humans evolved > > > > >from something else. > > > > > It's easier to find physical evidence that mankind (and every other > > > > living thing) evolved from gobs of protoplasm than it is to find > > > > evidence that there is a creative mind behind it all. It's in the > > > > DNA. > > > > Where did the DNA come from? > > > > I am not a propoent of intelligent design, never have been and never > > > will be. But, someone is going to have to come up with an explanation of > > > what caused the Big Bang. Chaos theory can be used to describe DNA > > > oringination on Earth but, if we start finding DNA in other parts of he > > > Solar systme, Galaxy or Universe there will have to be some re-Sciencing > > > going on. > > > I think there is a bigger question at hand. Matter, left on it's own, > > decays from complex to simple. The big question is how matter was formed > > out of nothing, collided, then sparked life, then became increasingly > > organized and complex. From where I sit, intelligent design is the only > > rational answer. > > > -Greg > > Intelligent design is nothing more than a ruse cooked up by the people > who had tried and failed get the courts to force the teaching of > creationism in public schools. It's a joke. > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Your opinion. There are plenty of smart people, including scientists, who > believe otherwise. > > -Greg I doubt it.
From: John B. on 2 Aug 2010 22:06 On Aug 2, 6:31 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:50:18 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >news:4c5364d2$0$4971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:40:34 -0400, BAR wrote: > > >>> Like Obama you haven't thought it through. What is the difference > >>> between the persons housed at Gitmo and the criminals you described? > > >> Those housed at Gitmo have been tortured, so there is no practical > >> way to prosecute them. > > > All of them? > > I would suspect so, but I don't know. I do know there's no practical way > to prosecute someone who stands up in court and says, "I was > waterboarded 62 times. Of course I admitted to all kinds of things. You > would have done the same in my place." Some of the gitmo prisoners are children. I trust they haven't been waterboarded.
From: Moderate on 2 Aug 2010 22:23
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 2, 6:31 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:50:18 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4c5364d2$0$4971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:40:34 -0400, BAR wrote: >> >>>>> Like Obama you haven't thought it through. What is the difference >>>>> between the persons housed at Gitmo and the criminals you > > > > > described? >> >>>> Those housed at Gitmo have been tortured, so there is no practical >>>> way to prosecute them. >> >>> All of them? >> >> I would suspect so, but I don't know. I do know there's no practical > > way >> to prosecute someone who stands up in court and says, "I was >> waterboarded 62 times. Of course I admitted to all kinds of things. > > You >> would have done the same in my place." > > > Some of the gitmo prisoners are children. I trust they haven't been > waterboarded. Only three people were waterboarded. The records of their interrogations has been released. |