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From: William Clark on 3 Aug 2010 18:44 In article <254h565mc9hfg1fnaetsq0u2qdus45tjvg(a)4ax.com>, Don Kirkman <donsno2(a)charter.net> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:47:12 -0400, William Clark > <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > > >In article <8bqotnFkjaU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > [. . .] > > >> He is a piece of work. They don't get much more intolerant than Clark. > > >Indeed, I am intolerant of intellectual dishonesty. It is what I am paid > >to be. Trying to argue against scientific data with ideas that depend > >solely on faith is just nonsense. Ask Steven J. Gould. > > Unfortunately, he is no longer with us, but that was certainly his > position while he was alive. :-) > > He (and others) use(d) the model of dual realms, faith and science, > which can sometimes share insights, but are separate modes of thought > with different criteria for validity. Neither can speak > authoritatively about the other. Pace, Steven! Indeed, he simply refused to "debate" evolution with creationists and IDrs, saying that to do so simply gave them a veneer of science when in reality they had none. Chalk and cheese again.
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 02:10 In article <52413732302494865.903173nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Aug 2, 6:31 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:50:18 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>> news:4c5364d2$0$4971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:40:34 -0400, BAR wrote: > >> > >>>>> Like Obama you haven't thought it through. What is the difference > >>>>> between the persons housed at Gitmo and the criminals you > > > > > > described? > >> > >>>> Those housed at Gitmo have been tortured, so there is no practical > >>>> way to prosecute them. > >> > >>> All of them? > >> > >> I would suspect so, but I don't know. I do know there's no practical > > > way > >> to prosecute someone who stands up in court and says, "I was > >> waterboarded 62 times. Of course I admitted to all kinds of things. > > > You > >> would have done the same in my place." > > > > > > Some of the gitmo prisoners are children. I trust they haven't been > > waterboarded. > > Only three people were waterboarded. The records of their interrogations > has been released. Again: you're sure, are you? Because, your government would never conceal the truth from you, would it? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 02:11 In article <0e3h56l6cihi5m4r8pg7035f2k8sdvckff(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:17:43 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> > wrote: > > >It is not easy to find physical evidence. The transcending mutatations > >fossils between species should far outweigh the fossils for existing or > >extinct species. Yet there is virtually nothing in the fossil record. > >There is evolution within species....the evidence....but not from one > >species to another. > > That's because every time we see an animal that's a "missing link" > people say that it doesn't count. I guess we have two missing links > now. > > So what would you accept as evidence of a transcending mutation > fossil? One that is changing comic-book style as we look at it? He's already completely ignored a link I posted to an example of evolution in E.Coli... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 02:16 In article <clark-1515BB.08532303082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > In article <MPG.26c1c672c9074b6d98a1b2(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <wclark2-41C9D5.20415302082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > Regardless....there are a plethora of species who are captured in time > > > > via > > > > the fossil record. But why are there few, if any, mutated transitional > > > > species. You know...Ape to Baker mutations, or better yet, ?? to ape to > > > > Baker. Shouldn't these mutated, transitional species far outweigh > > > > existing > > > > species? > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > That is what was said about the transition of fish to amphibians. Then, > > > guess what, in 2004 they found Tiktaalik Rosae, a classic example of a > > > transitional form, that fitted right in the middle. Oops. > > > > > > > "that fitted right in the middle?" > > Your problem with that is . . ? ....his unwillingness to comprehend. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 02:20
In article <8bpeasF9rtU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:82774e2a-602c-40a4-9919-55a0a9502701(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 2, 5:33 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:18ae96af-e4b9-4bd3-838d-6b74c67da875(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > > On Aug 2, 3:00 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > > > >news:alangbaker-FD89BC.11301202082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > In article <8bofofF3j...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > How little faith you have in scientists. If it were happening, it > > would > > > be > > > > > observed. > > > > > > Sounds like you're the one who has faith. > > > > > I think there are sincere scientists out there who would love to observe > > > this. > > > > > > > > 2. More importantly, new life would be very undeveloped to compete > > > > > > against life that has been evolving for billions of eyes. > > > > > > > Think in terms of logic. The ancient collision of matter creates a > > > spark of > > > > > life, according to evolutionists.. Don't you think that enviroment > is > > > more > > > > > hostile than the one that exists on earth? > > > > > > Not to new life, no. > > > > > > Scientists have already demonstrated that the chemicals of life arise > > > > spontaneously from the elements and compounds that existed on the > early > > > > earth. > > > > > Cite. > > > > > > Now the first very simple "lifeform" comes together: what other life > is > > > > it competing with? > > > > > > If such a simple lifeform came into being today, it would be in a > > > > environment of thousands and thousands of other microscopic life who > > > > would be able to feed on it. > > > > > Fine. Then all scientists have to do is "create" the enviroment that > this > > > life comes from nothing, and then make it sterile from outside > predators, > > > then observe whether this "life" eats and reproduces. > > > > > Trouble is....no life has ever been created in a lab or on earth. Cite > > > where it has. > > > > > -Greg > > > > No life has ever been created on earth? What does that mean? > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Not since the beginning. Reproduction...yes. But organic life resulting > > from the right mix of matter....no. > > > > -Greg > > Are you saying that every species on earth today has always been here? > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I think there were different timelines. Obviously dinosaurs preceded > mankind. It's just odd to me that the religion of science cannot answer why > no new life is manifesting itself, even though conditions are ripe for it. > > -Greg I can and did. You just refused to see it. Anything that arose today out of complex but non-living matter would be immediately eaten by the life already in the ecosystem. In fact, even those building block molecules would be consumed as food before they could come together. Hence, we don't see new life.. ...today. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |