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From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 02:23 In article <MPG.26c1c744e21cb27398a1b3(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <wclark2-CF6929.20560102082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > Not since the beginning. Reproduction...yes. But organic life resulting > > > from the right mix of matter....no. > > > > > > -Greg > > > > You haven't read much about the Big Bang you are so fond of referring > > to, have you? It originates from a universe that is infinitely dense and > > infinitely hot - conditions that no one can reproduce on earth today. > > Except, probably, your favorite old man with the long white beard. > > > > > > > Where did the infinitely dense and infinitely hot come from? There are theories. > > So far we have gone from the dealership to the manufacturer. Wher did > the raw materials that the manufacturer use come from? Where did the manufacturer that the religious insist made everything come from? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 02:25 In article <8bokj2F2hcU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-BC9BD5.12120402082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > Only because when asked the next logical question ("Where did the > > > > designer come from?"), you cover your ears, shy away, and hide. > > > > > > Cite where I ducked this question, liar. > > > > See below. > > I looked below and above and see no evidence where you addressed this > question to me. Cite where I ducked this question or remain a liar. > > > > He has no beginning or ending is my answer. > > > > But for some reason the universe can't be said to do the same thing? > > > > > It certainly is more reasonable than something coming from nothing, then > > > getting organized. > > > > Why? > > > > Stars and planets form because gravity pulls them together and then > > remain organized. You do acknowledge that, right? > > And the matter that causes this gravity comes from where? I don't know, but it isn't important to the point I'm making. > > Why shouldn't it be > > possible for molecules to come together in ways that are analogous? > > Elements combine to form compounds, some of those compounds are more > > stable than others, some can for patterns that self-replicate. > > Matter self replicating? Cite a specific example. DNA. > > > You know what a catalyst is, don't you? Is it utterly impossible for you > > to imagine a molecule which is its own catalyst? > > Of course I know what a catalyst is, punk! The catalyst in my belief system > is God. Your's is random chance over the course of billions of years. Your > religion requires more faith but you are the exception. You are your own > god and simply do not want the competition. I doubt if you sincerely > believe in anything. Your game is to nitpick those who do. No, Greg. God is not a catalyst. We're discussing chemistry and in that context, "catalyst" has a specific meaning. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on 5 Aug 2010 03:22 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-784E90.23281304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > I notice you've avoided replying to the post where I gave you a > reference to a case where E.Coli clearly evolved a new trait. > > Funny. Trolls hate to be ignored. -Greg
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 03:21 In article <8bv6vfF9nnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-784E90.23281304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > I notice you've avoided replying to the post where I gave you a > > reference to a case where E.Coli clearly evolved a new trait. > > > > Funny. > > Trolls hate to be ignored. > > -Greg LOL I wouldn't know anything about that. What I do know is that lacking any rebuttal, the man who has posted all over this thread about "intelligent design" and how evolution couldn't possibly happen went strangely silent. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Moderate on 5 Aug 2010 06:35
Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <52413732302494865.903173nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, > Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > >> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Aug 2, 6:31 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:50:18 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: >>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c5364d2$0$4971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:40:34 -0400, BAR wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Like Obama you haven't thought it through. What is the > > > > > > > difference >>>>>>> between the persons housed at Gitmo and the criminals you >>>>>>> described? >>>> >>>>>> Those housed at Gitmo have been tortured, so there is no > > > > > > practical >>>>>> way to prosecute them. >>>> >>>>> All of them? >>>> >>>> I would suspect so, but I don't know. I do know there's no > > > > practical >>>> way >>>> to prosecute someone who stands up in court and says, "I was >>>> waterboarded 62 times. Of course I admitted to all kinds of things. >>>> You >>>> would have done the same in my place." >>> >>> >>> Some of the gitmo prisoners are children. I trust they haven't been >>> waterboarded. >> >> Only three people were waterboarded. The records of their > > interrogations >> has been released. > > Again: you're sure, are you? > > Because, your government would never conceal the truth from you, would > > it? Nothing goes better with coffee than a good conspiracy theory. Maybe Obama is involved in the coverup or the Canadians took over the program. Personally I think Glen Beck runs the water wheel. |