From: Alan Baker on
In article <i3f3mb$hj7$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-B45C03.12165805082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article
> > <1147385272302696520.982042nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>,
> > Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote:
> >> > In article
> >> > <52413732302494865.903173nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>,
> >> > Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> On Aug 2, 6:31 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:50:18 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> >> >>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>> news:4c5364d2$0$4971$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >> >>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:40:34 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Like Obama you haven't thought it through. What is the
> >> > > > > > > > difference
> >> >>>>>>> between the persons housed at Gitmo and the criminals you
> >> >>>>>>> described?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>> Those housed at Gitmo have been tortured, so there is no
> >> > > > > > > practical
> >> >>>>>> way to prosecute them.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> All of them?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I would suspect so, but I don't know. I do know there's no
> >> > > > > practical
> >> >>>> way
> >> >>>> to prosecute someone who stands up in court and says, "I was
> >> >>>> waterboarded 62 times. Of course I admitted to all kinds of things.
> >> >>>> You
> >> >>>> would have done the same in my place."
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Some of the gitmo prisoners are children. I trust they haven't been
> >> >>> waterboarded.
> >> >>
> >> >> Only three people were waterboarded. The records of their
> >> > > interrogations
> >> >> has been released.
> >> >
> >> > Again: you're sure, are you?
> >> >
> >> > Because, your government would never conceal the truth from you, would
> >> >
> >> > it?
> >>
> >> Nothing goes better with coffee than a good conspiracy theory. Maybe
> >> Obama is involved in the coverup or the Canadians took over the program.
> >> Personally I think Glen Beck runs the water wheel.
> >
> > So you won't actually answer the questions.
> >
> > Figured as much.
>
> You are the one making the allegation. I say you are full of BS. You don't
> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze looking
> foolish. Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Show us what you
> got.

I'm making no allegation.

You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."

I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Moderate on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <i3f3mb$hj7$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You are the one making the allegation. I say you are full of BS. You
>> don't
>> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze looking
>> foolish. Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Show us what you
>> got.
>
> I'm making no allegation.
>
> You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
>
> I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.

There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.


From: Alan Baker on
In article <i3f5t7$lcg$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <i3f3mb$hj7$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You are the one making the allegation. I say you are full of BS. You
> >> don't
> >> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze looking
> >> foolish. Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Show us what you
> >> got.
> >
> > I'm making no allegation.
> >
> > You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
> >
> > I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.
>
> There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.

So when you said definitively that "Only three people were
waterboarded", you knew that you were lying.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Moderate on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-1E534C.13264205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <i3f5t7$lcg$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
>> > In article <i3f3mb$hj7$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
>> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You are the one making the allegation. I say you are full of BS. You
>> >> don't
>> >> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze looking
>> >> foolish. Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Show us what
>> >> you
>> >> got.
>> >
>> > I'm making no allegation.
>> >
>> > You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
>> >
>> > I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.
>>
>> There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.
>
> So when you said definitively that "Only three people were
> waterboarded", you knew that you were lying.

If you want to call me a liar you better be able to prove it.


From: Alan Baker on
In article <i3f78e$nn3$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-1E534C.13264205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <i3f5t7$lcg$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >> > In article <i3f3mb$hj7$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> >> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> You are the one making the allegation. I say you are full of BS. You
> >> >> don't
> >> >> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze looking
> >> >> foolish. Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Show us what
> >> >> you
> >> >> got.
> >> >
> >> > I'm making no allegation.
> >> >
> >> > You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
> >> >
> >> > I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.
> >>
> >> There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.
> >
> > So when you said definitively that "Only three people were
> > waterboarded", you knew that you were lying.
>
> If you want to call me a liar you better be able to prove it.

I can.

You said "Only that three people were waterboarded". The lie is in the
underlying implication that you had the requisite knowledge to make that
statement. You've just admitted you didn't and that your support is only
"there is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded".

The lie is speaking as if it were a certain fact when you know that you
can't know it is a certain fact.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
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