From: Moderate on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-87744B.13383405082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <i3f78e$nn3$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-1E534C.13264205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
>> > In article <i3f5t7$lcg$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
>> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
>> >> > In article <i3f3mb$hj7$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
>> >> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You are the one making the allegation. I say you are full of BS.
>> >> >> You
>> >> >> don't
>> >> >> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze
>> >> >> looking
>> >> >> foolish. Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Show us
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> got.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm making no allegation.
>> >> >
>> >> > You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.
>> >>
>> >> There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.
>> >
>> > So when you said definitively that "Only three people were
>> > waterboarded", you knew that you were lying.
>>
>> If you want to call me a liar you better be able to prove it.
>
> I can.
>
> You said "Only that three people were waterboarded". The lie is in the
> underlying implication that you had the requisite knowledge to make that
> statement. You've just admitted you didn't and that your support is only
> "there is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded".
>
> The lie is speaking as if it were a certain fact when you know that you
> can't know it is a certain fact.

It could only be a lie if more than three people had been water boarded.

Clearly I have made my point. You have no evidence of anyone else being
waterboarded and your insinuation that there were more is simply blustering
and you cover that with more blustering.

You are the worst troll ever :-) LOL


From: Alan Baker on
In article <i3f8a9$pin$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-87744B.13383405082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <i3f78e$nn3$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-1E534C.13264205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >> > In article <i3f5t7$lcg$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> >> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >> >> > In article <i3f3mb$hj7$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> >> >> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You are the one making the allegation. I say you are full of BS.
> >> >> >> You
> >> >> >> don't
> >> >> >> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze
> >> >> >> looking
> >> >> >> foolish. Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Show us
> >> >> >> what
> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> got.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm making no allegation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.
> >> >>
> >> >> There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.
> >> >
> >> > So when you said definitively that "Only three people were
> >> > waterboarded", you knew that you were lying.
> >>
> >> If you want to call me a liar you better be able to prove it.
> >
> > I can.
> >
> > You said "Only that three people were waterboarded". The lie is in the
> > underlying implication that you had the requisite knowledge to make that
> > statement. You've just admitted you didn't and that your support is only
> > "there is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded".
> >
> > The lie is speaking as if it were a certain fact when you know that you
> > can't know it is a certain fact.
>
> It could only be a lie if more than three people had been water boarded.

No. Saying (implicitly) that you have certain knowledge of a subject
(that you're not just guessing) is a lie whether or not your guess
happens to turn out to be correct.

The lie is in the implicit statement that you know when you don't.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: John B. on
On Aug 5, 4:38 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article <i3f78e$nn...(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >news:alangbaker-1E534C.13264205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > > In article <i3f5t7$lc...(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> > >>news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > >> > In article <i3f3mb$hj...(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > >> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> You are the one making the allegation.  I say you are full of BS.  You
> > >> >> don't
> > >> >> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze looking
> > >> >> foolish.  Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory.  Show us what
> > >> >> you
> > >> >> got.
>
> > >> > I'm making no allegation.
>
> > >> > You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
>
> > >> > I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.
>
> > >> There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.
>
> > > So when you said definitively that "Only three people were
> > > waterboarded", you knew that you were lying.
>
> > If you want to call me a liar you better be able to prove it.
>
> I can.
>
> You said "Only that three people were waterboarded". The lie is in the
> underlying implication that you had the requisite knowledge to make that
> statement. You've just admitted you didn't and that your support is only
> "there is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded".
>
> The lie is speaking as if it were a certain fact when you know that you
> can't know it is a certain fact.
>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

My God, Alan, do you really have nothing better to do?
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<5efa0f19-c1e5-4aa5-a73f-f15164e36e22(a)t26g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>,
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 5, 4:38�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <i3f78e$nn...(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > �"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> > >news:alangbaker-1E534C.13264205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > > > In article <i3f5t7$lc...(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > > > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> > > >>news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > > >> > In article <i3f3mb$hj...(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > > >> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> You are the one making the allegation. �I say you are full of BS.
> > > >> >> �You
> > > >> >> don't
> > > >> >> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze
> > > >> >> looking
> > > >> >> foolish. �Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. �Show us
> > > >> >> what
> > > >> >> you
> > > >> >> got.
> >
> > > >> > I'm making no allegation.
> >
> > > >> > You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
> >
> > > >> > I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.
> >
> > > >> There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.
> >
> > > > So when you said definitively that "Only three people were
> > > > waterboarded", you knew that you were lying.
> >
> > > If you want to call me a liar you better be able to prove it.
> >
> > I can.
> >
> > You said "Only that three people were waterboarded". The lie is in the
> > underlying implication that you had the requisite knowledge to make that
> > statement. You've just admitted you didn't and that your support is only
> > "there is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded".
> >
> > The lie is speaking as if it were a certain fact when you know that you
> > can't know it is a certain fact.
> >
> > --
> > Alan Baker
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
>
> My God, Alan, do you really have nothing better to do?

At the moment, no. I'm tied to my place while working on a client's
(Windows) system.

<sigh>

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: William Clark on
In article <i3f78e$nn3$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-1E534C.13264205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <i3f5t7$lcg$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-4C01A6.12353505082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >> > In article <i3f3mb$hj7$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> >> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> You are the one making the allegation. I say you are full of BS. You
> >> >> don't
> >> >> have a clue and I don't mind watching you flap in the breeze looking
> >> >> foolish. Like I said I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Show us what
> >> >> you
> >> >> got.
> >> >
> >> > I'm making no allegation.
> >> >
> >> > You made a definitive claim: "Only three people were waterboarded."
> >> >
> >> > I'm asking you how you can possibly be so sure.
> >>
> >> There is no evidence that anyone else was waterboarded.
> >
> > So when you said definitively that "Only three people were
> > waterboarded", you knew that you were lying.
>
> If you want to call me a liar you better be able to prove it.

He just did.
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