From: Simon on 13 Feb 2007 01:53
On Feb 12, 9:45 pm, david s-a <dsant...(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> I may be wrong, but isn't there a European Tour event that uses this
> system? I'm sure it was called 'The Fulford Trophy'.....or something
> like that. I recall many years ago (at least 20 years or so) this event
> being played near York (Fulford?)....and was won on that occasion by
> Aussie Mike Harwood. Mike Harwood still makes the cut in most Oz PGA
> Tour events...but unfortunately doesn't show up on too many leaderboards
> these days. (He was runner-up to Ian Baker-Finch for his 'Open' win back
> in the year dot.) His appearance hasn't changed one little bit over the
> years....still looks as youthful as he was then....tall and
> skinny...unlike some of us who are now quite the opposite!
> Is that European Tour 'Stableford' event still extant?
There was the Murphy's Cup that was played in Fulford, York, back in
the 80's. I went to see it once. I can't remember the exact format for
their 'modified' scoring, but I remember it being confusing to follow
the scoreboards. The scores obviously showed the total points for the
holes played so far. With players at different points around the
course, it was hard to work out who was leading. It was a bit like
showing a leaderboard for a strokeplay event with cumulative scores,
rather than +/- par.
After a couple of years, they changed the format back to normal
scoring. I do remember that an additional prize for the winner was a
huge number of pints of Murphys (a bit like Guinness)
From: Kev Nurse on 13 Feb 2007 14:08
On 12 Feb, 11:26, "johnty" <john...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> The modified system was worthless.
> Real Stableford was specifically designed for handicap play, and is
> unsurpassed in that regard.
I completely agree, Johnty. Stableford for pros is a waste of time.
The pros will be scoring points on every hole and where they score nil
points it will be a double bogey at worst. A player returning, say,
40 points is 4 under par and he will not have a triple bogey on his
card. Its a handicapper's format.
From: John Turner on 13 Feb 2007 14:38
"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:36:54 -0000, "John Turner"
> <jgturner(a)not.for.use.net> wrote:
>>Are we really to believe that this multi-millionaires' golf resort
>>find a sponsor, or has it come time for them to retreat into their enclave
>>without the annual invasion.
> It isn't a golf resort. It is a private club.
Sorry, what I should have said was:
Are we really to believe that this multi-millionaires' private golf resort
From: John van der Pflum on 13 Feb 2007 18:16
On 13 Feb 2007 11:08:38 -0800, "Kev Nurse"
>On 12 Feb, 11:26, "johnty" <john...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> The modified system was worthless.
>> Real Stableford was specifically designed for handicap play, and is
>> unsurpassed in that regard.
>I completely agree, Johnty. Stableford for pros is a waste of time.
>The pros will be scoring points on every hole and where they score nil
>points it will be a double bogey at worst. A player returning, say,
>40 points is 4 under par and he will not have a triple bogey on his
>card. Its a handicapper's format.
How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are
scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be
net score for calculating the Stableford points?
Start clearing your calendars
From: annika1980 on 13 Feb 2007 18:34
On Feb 12, 12:04 pm, "sfb" <s...(a)spam.net> wrote:
> There's no evidence that Stableford was the reason the International folded.
I thought it was all Tiger's fault?