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From: Colin Wilson on 13 Feb 2007 18:42 John van der Pflum wrote: > How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are > scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be > net score for calculating the Stableford points? Yes. That's the whole idea of Stableford. Points are: Worse than net bogey 0 points Net bogey 1 point Net par 2 points Net birdie 3 points Net eagle 4 points So a 30 handicapper who has 2 strokes on a par-4 hole would get two points for a 6, whereas a scratch player would need a 4 for the same points score. The highest score I've seen in Stableford was by my daughter, who began her golf on a handicap of 45. On a par-4 (index 8), she hit two 3-woods to within a foot of the cup, sank the putt and walked off with a nett zero for 6 points! -- Cheers Colin Wilson ------------------------------------------------------------------ Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com Barnbougle Dunes: http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/barnbougle ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Pat Williams on 14 Feb 2007 05:26 > > How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are > scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be > net score for calculating the Stableford points? You may be interested in the following. Dr.Frank Stableford was playing golf almost a century ago from a handicap of +1. So he was no mean golfer. In the late 20's and 30's he played at Wallasey which is over the river Mersey from Liverpool on the Wirral and anyone who knows that area has experienced the winds that howl across the estuary at times. Not having many strokes to play with he got fed up with a disaster in the wind at one hole which put him out of many competitions. So he devised the Stableford scoring system which meant that an individual hole was not necessarily the end of the round, for it meant zero points for that hole alone. With his playing ability he had 17 other holes to recover, as did everyone else. The first competition was at Wallasey in May 1932 and from there developed into a very popular competition format here in the UK. It used to be played from a percentage of the player's handicap (often 7/8ths.) but of recent years the format is full handicap. (CONGU's recommendation.) 36 points is an average score when playing to your handicap and anything over 40 warrants a hefty cut in handicap. I once read of a score of 57 points somewhere in France which I thought was outrageous but I subsequently discovered that the chap was playing from a 54 handicap. Anyone passing by Liverpool give Wallasey a go. It has a classic finishing hole. JPW
From: John van der Pflum on 14 Feb 2007 08:33 On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:42:02 GMT, Colin Wilson <publish (a)removethis.kyneton.net.au> wrote:>John van der Pflum wrote: > >> How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are >> scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be >> net score for calculating the Stableford points? > >Yes. That's the whole idea of Stableford. > >Points are: >Worse than net bogey 0 points >Net bogey 1 point >Net par 2 points >Net birdie 3 points >Net eagle 4 points > >So a 30 handicapper who has 2 strokes on a par-4 hole would get two >points for a 6, whereas a scratch player would need a 4 for the same >points score. > >The highest score I've seen in Stableford was by my daughter, who began >her golf on a handicap of 45. On a par-4 (index 8), she hit two 3-woods >to within a foot of the cup, sank the putt and walked off with a nett >zero for 6 points! So, the golfer would have to know how many shots he/she was getting on a particular hole in order to "pick up" when he was out of the hole, yes? -- jvdp Start clearing your calendars http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
From: Mark Myers on 14 Feb 2007 08:48 On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:33:40 -0500, John van der Pflum said... > On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:42:02 GMT, Colin Wilson > <publish (a)removethis.kyneton.net.au> wrote:> > >John van der Pflum wrote: > > > >> How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are > >> scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be > >> net score for calculating the Stableford points? > > > >Yes. That's the whole idea of Stableford. > > > >Points are: > >Worse than net bogey 0 points > >Net bogey 1 point > >Net par 2 points > >Net birdie 3 points > >Net eagle 4 points > > > >So a 30 handicapper who has 2 strokes on a par-4 hole would get two > >points for a 6, whereas a scratch player would need a 4 for the same > >points score. > > > >The highest score I've seen in Stableford was by my daughter, who began > >her golf on a handicap of 45. On a par-4 (index 8), she hit two 3-woods > >to within a foot of the cup, sank the putt and walked off with a nett > >zero for 6 points! > > So, the golfer would have to know how many shots he/she was getting on > a particular hole in order to "pick up" when he was out of the hole, > yes? Yes. -- Mark Myers usenet2 at mcm2002 dot f9 dot co dot uk I have all the specs and diagrams at home.
From: Howard Brazee on 14 Feb 2007 10:15
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:16:09 -0500, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy (a)bite.org> wrote:>How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are >scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be >net score for calculating the Stableford points? I've played modified Stableford net tournaments (of variety used by The International). Trouble is with the Modified Stableford is that any score better than Double eagle is undefined. But a high handicap player can hit a hole-in-one with two strokes. (I had a hole-in-one when my handicap was that high - but not playing Modified Stableford). It didn't happen during the tournament - but what score would you give for a triple Eagle? =========================== From http://golf.about.com/od/beginners/a/stablefordintro.htm The International on the PGA Tour and ANZ Championship on the European Tour use a Modified Stableford format (so-called because its points are awarded on a different scale from that described in the rule book). Both pro tournaments use the same points scale: � Double bogey or worse - minus-3 points � Bogey - minus-1 point � Par - 0 points � Birdie - 2 points � Eagle - 5 points � Double eagle - 8 points |