From: Colin Wilson on
John van der Pflum wrote:

> How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are
> scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be
> net score for calculating the Stableford points?

Yes. That's the whole idea of Stableford.

Points are:
Worse than net bogey 0 points
Net bogey 1 point
Net par 2 points
Net birdie 3 points
Net eagle 4 points

So a 30 handicapper who has 2 strokes on a par-4 hole would get two
points for a 6, whereas a scratch player would need a 4 for the same
points score.

The highest score I've seen in Stableford was by my daughter, who began
her golf on a handicap of 45. On a par-4 (index 8), she hit two 3-woods
to within a foot of the cup, sank the putt and walked off with a nett
zero for 6 points!

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From: Pat Williams on

>
> How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are
> scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be
> net score for calculating the Stableford points?

You may be interested in the following.

Dr.Frank Stableford was playing golf almost a century ago from a handicap of +1.
So he was no mean golfer. In the late 20's and 30's he played at Wallasey which
is over the river Mersey from Liverpool on the Wirral and anyone who knows that
area has experienced the winds that howl across the estuary at times. Not having
many strokes to play with he got fed up with a disaster in the wind at one hole
which put him out of many competitions. So he devised the Stableford scoring
system which meant that an individual hole was not necessarily the end of the
round, for it meant zero points for that hole alone. With his playing ability he
had 17 other holes to recover, as did everyone else.

The first competition was at Wallasey in May 1932 and from there developed into
a very popular competition format here in the UK. It used to be played from a
percentage of the player's handicap (often 7/8ths.) but of recent years the
format is full handicap. (CONGU's recommendation.) 36 points is an average score
when playing to your handicap and anything over 40 warrants a hefty cut in handicap.

I once read of a score of 57 points somewhere in France which I thought was
outrageous but I subsequently discovered that the chap was playing from a 54
handicap.

Anyone passing by Liverpool give Wallasey a go. It has a classic finishing hole.

JPW



From: John van der Pflum on
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:42:02 GMT, Colin Wilson
<publish(a)removethis.kyneton.net.au> wrote:

>John van der Pflum wrote:
>
>> How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are
>> scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be
>> net score for calculating the Stableford points?
>
>Yes. That's the whole idea of Stableford.
>
>Points are:
>Worse than net bogey 0 points
>Net bogey 1 point
>Net par 2 points
>Net birdie 3 points
>Net eagle 4 points
>
>So a 30 handicapper who has 2 strokes on a par-4 hole would get two
>points for a 6, whereas a scratch player would need a 4 for the same
>points score.
>
>The highest score I've seen in Stableford was by my daughter, who began
>her golf on a handicap of 45. On a par-4 (index 8), she hit two 3-woods
>to within a foot of the cup, sank the putt and walked off with a nett
>zero for 6 points!

So, the golfer would have to know how many shots he/she was getting on
a particular hole in order to "pick up" when he was out of the hole,
yes?
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From: Mark Myers on
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:33:40 -0500, John van der Pflum said...
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:42:02 GMT, Colin Wilson
> <publish(a)removethis.kyneton.net.au> wrote:
>
> >John van der Pflum wrote:
> >
> >> How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are
> >> scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be
> >> net score for calculating the Stableford points?
> >
> >Yes. That's the whole idea of Stableford.
> >
> >Points are:
> >Worse than net bogey 0 points
> >Net bogey 1 point
> >Net par 2 points
> >Net birdie 3 points
> >Net eagle 4 points
> >
> >So a 30 handicapper who has 2 strokes on a par-4 hole would get two
> >points for a 6, whereas a scratch player would need a 4 for the same
> >points score.
> >
> >The highest score I've seen in Stableford was by my daughter, who began
> >her golf on a handicap of 45. On a par-4 (index 8), she hit two 3-woods
> >to within a foot of the cup, sank the putt and walked off with a nett
> >zero for 6 points!
>
> So, the golfer would have to know how many shots he/she was getting on
> a particular hole in order to "pick up" when he was out of the hole,
> yes?

Yes.

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From: Howard Brazee on
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:16:09 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammymyspammy(a)bite.org> wrote:

>How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are
>scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be
>net score for calculating the Stableford points?

I've played modified Stableford net tournaments (of variety used by
The International). Trouble is with the Modified Stableford is that
any score better than Double eagle is undefined.

But a high handicap player can hit a hole-in-one with two strokes. (I
had a hole-in-one when my handicap was that high - but not playing
Modified Stableford). It didn't happen during the tournament - but
what score would you give for a triple Eagle?

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From http://golf.about.com/od/beginners/a/stablefordintro.htm

The International on the PGA Tour and ANZ Championship on the
European Tour use a Modified Stableford format (so-called because its
points are awarded on a different scale from that described in the
rule book).

Both pro tournaments use the same points scale:

� Double bogey or worse - minus-3 points
� Bogey - minus-1 point
� Par - 0 points
� Birdie - 2 points
� Eagle - 5 points
� Double eagle - 8 points