A Sad Day for Golf, No More Stableford
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From: Howard Brazee on 14 Feb 2007 10:16 On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:33:40 -0500, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy(a)bite.org> wrote: >So, the golfer would have to know how many shots he/she was getting on >a particular hole in order to "pick up" when he was out of the hole, >yes? Same as net match play.
From: johnty on 14 Feb 2007 11:27 On 14 Feb, 10:26, Pat Williams <j...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > How would you apply it for a handicapped tournament where there are > > scratch golfers and 30 handicappers? Would the score on each hole be > > net score for calculating the Stableford points? > > You may be interested in the following. > > Dr.Frank Stableford was playing golf almost a century ago from a handicap of +1. > So he was no mean golfer. In the late 20's and 30's he played at Wallasey which > is over the river Mersey from Liverpool on the Wirral and anyone who knows that > area has experienced the winds that howl across the estuary at times. Not having > many strokes to play with he got fed up with a disaster in the wind at one hole > which put him out of many competitions. So he devised the Stableford scoring > system which meant that an individual hole was not necessarily the end of the > round, for it meant zero points for that hole alone. With his playing ability he > had 17 other holes to recover, as did everyone else. > > The first competition was at Wallasey in May 1932 and from there developed into > a very popular competition format here in the UK. It used to be played from a > percentage of the player's handicap (often 7/8ths.) but of recent years the > format is full handicap. (CONGU's recommendation.) 36 points is an average score > when playing to your handicap and anything over 40 warrants a hefty cut in handicap. > > I once read of a score of 57 points somewhere in France which I thought was > outrageous but I subsequently discovered that the chap was playing from a 54 > handicap. > > Anyone passing by Liverpool give Wallasey a go. It has a classic finishing hole. > It is a beautiful course (in the eye of this beholder, anyway). Sadly, Dr Stableford took his own life when his increasing age-ralted disabilities prevented him from playing golf. A littel more at http://www.ruleshistory.com/scoring
From: Paul Schmitz-Josten on 14 Feb 2007 12:25 Pat Williams in <45d2e3cb$1_1(a)mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>: >I once read of a score of 57 points somewhere in France which I thought was >outrageous but I subsequently discovered that the chap was playing from a 54 >handicap. I witnessed a prize ceremony last year where a guy (HCP 54) won, having played a gross score of 90, 18 gross points (4 pars, 10 bogeys, 3 double and 1 triple bogey), equalling 77 Stableford. His fellow club members cheered heartily and I heard that he had practiced for about two years before ever playing a tourney. His new handicap would be around 25, still leaving some room for more... Ciao & F'Up2 usg Paul
From: Howard Brazee on 14 Feb 2007 12:58 On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:25:10 +0100, Paul Schmitz-Josten <alossola(a)web.de> wrote: >>I once read of a score of 57 points somewhere in France which I thought was >>outrageous but I subsequently discovered that the chap was playing from a 54 >>handicap. Many organizations cap how high a handicap can be. >I witnessed a prize ceremony last year where a guy (HCP 54) won, having >played a gross score of 90, 18 gross points (4 pars, 10 bogeys, 3 double >and 1 triple bogey), equalling 77 Stableford. > >His fellow club members cheered heartily and I heard that he had practiced >for about two years before ever playing a tourney. There's a word for that.
From: Pat Williams on 14 Feb 2007 13:50
> >> I witnessed a prize ceremony last year where a guy (HCP 54) won, having >> played a gross score of 90, 18 gross points (4 pars, 10 bogeys, 3 double >> and 1 triple bogey), equalling 77 Stableford. >> >> His fellow club members cheered heartily and I heard that he had practiced >> for about two years before ever playing a tourney. > > There's a word for that. I could think of more than one! JPW |