A Sad Day for Golf, No More Stableford
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From: Kev Nurse on 16 Feb 2007 16:51 On 15 Feb, 15:10, The LHC <the...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > It's ridiculous because anyone needing 54 shots doesn't yet have the basics > down solid enough to be playing on a golf course. If you're that bad that > you need 3 shots per hole then you should stick to the practice range until > you can hit the ball better. I disagree. Golf is relatively new to Germany, so in the interests of fostering the sport, their national body (no doubt aware of the limits elsewhere) want to encourage the competitive spirit of the game and therefore attract more players onot the courses. Hitting countless balls on a range isn't golf. Playing a casual round with your mate is golf, but its not the same as true competition. Good luck to the Germans, I say. One day, when their golf courses are full of 40+ handicappers playing in club medals, they might then consider lowering the max allowance. In the meantime their officials should be agressive with the handicaps to ensure that rapidly improving players are cut timely and appropriately. Regards Kev
From: The LHC on 17 Feb 2007 01:02 Thomas Prufer <prufer.public(a)mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote in news:m4mat2p0jld7okb6qqk7m6g4r6hbp9jfge(a)4ax.com: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:10:30 GMT, The LHC <thelhc(a)hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: >>Paul Schmitz-Josten <alossola(a)web.de> wrote in >>news:er2n01$c93$00$7(a)news.t-online.com: >>> The LHC in <Lx2Bh.331331$MO2.34038(a)fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>: >> >>> (The German golf federation caps at 54) > (...) >>> In my eyes it's just a different habit, resulting from different >>> historical and environmental conditions. Some of them are the >>> different number of golfers and the different number of golf >>> courses. >>In my eyes it just allows someone who's never held a club to go >>straight out onto a course getting in the way when they don't know the >>first thing about the game. > The numbers of golfers are different, as are the number of golf > courses and their financing. > Those people will have had at least ten lessons, Always? You mean you can't get on the course without at least ten lessons (or demonstrating a comparable level of skill)? That's a little different, although after ten lessons I still can't see there'd be many people who would need a handicap of 54. > It's not in the long term interest of a golf club to tell > new members that they may not play after relieving them of upwards of > roughly 1500 pounds. Ouch, that's a lot of money! LHC.
From: The LHC on 17 Feb 2007 01:04 "Kev Nurse" <kev(a)kevnurse.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in news:1171662689.538848.62330(a)t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com: > In the meantime their officials should be agressive with the handicaps to > ensure that rapidly improving players are cut timely and appropriately. True, but then the same applies to ALL handicap officials! LHC.
From: Thomas Prufer on 17 Feb 2007 04:46 On 17 Feb 2007 06:02:45 GMT, The LHC <thelhc(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >Always? You mean you can't get on the course without at least ten lessons >(or demonstrating a comparable level of skill)? > >That's a little different, although after ten lessons I still can't see >there'd be many people who would need a handicap of 54. The "Platzreife" is the requirement; it means "course readiness". The pro takes the beginners, and gives them lessons, or packs them into a training course. There's a final aptitude test, playing par 3 and par 4s with the pro, to par + 3 strokes per hole. Also a Rules quiz, multiple choice. Theoretically, it's possible to flunk. However, after relieving the beginner of a few hundred for the lessons or course, and the price of equipment, it wouldn't go down too well. > >Ouch, that's a lot of money! > And you will not be able to play a course for greens fee unless you are member of a club somewhere. Clubs offering cheap memberships for "away" members are known, and such members will either be not allowed to play, or be charged a higher green fee! (This also applies to members of various English and Scottish golf societies. Such memberships are touted as a cheap way around the system in the back of golf magazines...) The national Golf Union has tried to institute a more affordable system, where a virtual golf club does the handicapping and certification. (It's also one of the few where the aptitude test is standardized, it has teeth, and it's possible to fail.) Belonging to this golf club also carries a stigma... It's not easy to play only a few rounds a year, so there are few young golfers, so they must soak those that have the money to be viable, so it's not easy to play, etc etc. Thomas Prufer
From: Roberto D V on 18 Feb 2007 03:47
Paul Schmitz-Josten <alossola(a)web.de> wrote in news:er2n01$c93$00$7(a)news.t-online.com: > The LHC in <Lx2Bh.331331$MO2.34038(a)fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>: > > (The German golf federation caps at 54) >>Which is ridiculous, if you'll pardon me for saying so, > > Is it "ridiculous" just because you aren't used to it? > No, it's ridiculous because anyone playing off a handicap of 54 is likely to lose more balls, therefore slowing play to a generally unacceptable level; handicaps are, in and of themselves, a reflection of a player's abilities; the wilder variation there is in this, the greater time is spent fossicking around in the pampas hunting the pill. Res ipse Loquitur. Harrumph. RdV |