From: William Clark on
In article <c66qc4td3q66qdc79iais6oudnl0v9126d(a)4ax.com>,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On 14 Sep 2008 00:08:02 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> His undergraduate GPA and his work at HLS are totally subjective.
> >
> >Jack, let me ask you something. Since McCain's and Palin's academic
> >records are pathetic by any rational measure, how can you possibly assume
> >their SAT's would be better than Obama's? Wouldn't it be more reasonable
> >to assume that Obama would be way ahead there as well?
>
> This is all conjecture. I just would like to see Obama's SAT and LSAT
> scores. These tests are standardized and correlate highly with IQ
> tests.
>
> McCain's experience during decades of public service cannot be matched
> by Obama. When it come to qualifications to be President Obama's not
> in the same league as McCain. In fact even Palin has more experience
> than Obama.
>
> Obama is the least qualified candidate in history.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah . . .
From: William Clark on
In article <at7qc45dq7o7oieg37fmvsr6pmn5t5ek2e(a)4ax.com>,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:13:54 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >>"Bush's GPA in college was higher than the so called intellectual
> >>Kerry. No wonder Kerry hid his college records until after the
> >>election. "
> >
> >Does that ring any bells?
>
> That's true. However, my evaluation of Bush as a man of superior, to
> very superior, intellegence is based on his SAT scores not his GPA at
> Yale.

So "superior" he was 200 points below the average SAT for freshmen
entering Yale with him. That's really special.

My 17 year old daughter's SAT scores (even adjusted for the change in
scale over the years) are way above Dubya's.

What kind of "superior" does that make her?
From: Jack Hollis on
On 14 Sep 2008 14:44:59 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>> This is all conjecture. I just would like to see Obama's SAT and LSAT
>> scores. These tests are standardized and correlate highly with IQ
>> tests.
>
>You are correct. As does academic achievement.

Not really. Mensa has never used GPA or having a degree as
qualification to join their society. They know that those measure are
purely subjective. You could an MD and a dozen Ph D's and that
wouldn't get you in. However, back in Obama's days in school, a high
enough SAT or LSAT score would do the trick. In fact, you could be a
high school drop out and get in if your LSAT score was high enough.

Mensa does not accept SAT scores any more because of all the politics
surrounding the test.
From: Carbon on
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:58:39 -0400, William Clark wrote:
> In article <f9qdnUBNy6Pym1DVnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>> Carbon wrote:
>> > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:59:42 -0400, BAR wrote:
>> >> William Clark wrote:
>> >>> In article <De2dnWiJyp5Jh1HVnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
>> >>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript?
>> >>>
>> >>> I doubt you could read it correctly even if it was provided. If
>> >>> this is your best effort to disparage his academic record, I think
>> >>> you should find something else to occupy your time.
>> >>
>> >> He must have barely graduated from Columbia.
>> >
>> > You sure are wrong a lot. Harvard Law is the top law school in the
>> > country. They do not accept bottom of the barrel students (i.e.
>> > McCain and Palin), period. How can you possibly not know that?
>>
>> If Obama's undergraduate degree from Columbia was awarded based upon
>> superior achievement or merit he would have put that on he resume. But,
>> he doesn't mention it.
>
> Perhaps in your world people have to flaunt the most meagre
> achievements. However, in others, and higher education in general, we
> tend not to make a fuss about them. It's deemed to be poor taste.

On the other hand, maybe McCain and Palin's educations are impressive to
people with GED's and the like.
From: BAR on
William Clark wrote:
> In article <f9qdnUBNy6Pym1DVnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
>> Carbon wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:59:42 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>>> William Clark wrote:
>>>>> In article <De2dnWiJyp5Jh1HVnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
>>>>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript?
>>>>> I doubt you could read it correctly even if it was provided. If this is
>>>>> your best effort to disparage his academic record, I think you should
>>>>> find something else to occupy your time.
>>>> He must have barely graduated from Columbia.
>>> You sure are wrong a lot. Harvard Law is the top law school in the
>>> country. They do not accept bottom of the barrel students (i.e. McCain
>>> and Palin), period. How can you possibly not know that?
>> If Obama's undergraduate degree from Columbia was awarded based upon
>> superior achievement or merit he would have put that on he resume. But,
>> he doesn't mention it.
>
> Perhaps in your world people have to flaunt the most meagre
> achievements. However, in others, and higher education in general, we
> tend not to make a fuss about them. It's deemed to be poor taste.

Titles are meaningless in academia?