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From: The Professor on 14 Sep 2008 11:18 Jack Hollis wrote: > On 14 Sep 2008 14:44:59 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > > >> This is all conjecture. I just would like to see Obama's SAT and LSAT > >> scores. These tests are standardized and correlate highly with IQ > >> tests. > > > >You are correct. As does academic achievement. > > Not really. Mensa has never used GPA or having a degree as > qualification to join their society. They know that those measure are > purely subjective. You could an MD and a dozen Ph D's and that > wouldn't get you in. However, back in Obama's days in school, a high > enough SAT or LSAT score would do the trick. In fact, you could be a > high school drop out and get in if your LSAT score was high enough. > > Mensa does not accept SAT scores any more because of all the politics > surrounding the test. Not that I care bout MENSA, but the SAT is not a meaningful test. The ACT does better...at least it tests knowledge. I would like to see the standardized test scores of people claiming to be intellectually superior to others though. It's 100% telling when such people won't give you their scores though. You know that if they were high they'd be wearing them!
From: The Professor on 14 Sep 2008 11:23 BAR wrote: > > > Titles are meaningless in academia? He's right in a way. While it is inappropriate to refer to a Ph.D. as Dr., we all insist on it. I personally don't like it. However, the status quo in academia, at the underachiever level, and in most fields, if not all, most people are underachievers, is quite oppressive. One area where he is wrong is science, anyways, only cares about what you *DID* yesterday. You can have 15 Nobel Prizes, and 1 billion in grants, but if you don't do anything meaningful today, no one will care about you. Not to say you won't get invited to give talks and have the underachievers fawn over you, but people who are really making things happen will only correspond with you if you are one of them; making things happen.
From: Carbon on 14 Sep 2008 11:36 On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:18:39 +0000, The Professor wrote: > Jack Hollis wrote: >> On 14 Sep 2008 14:44:59 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> This is all conjecture. I just would like to see Obama's SAT and >> >> LSAT scores. These tests are standardized and correlate highly with >> >> IQ tests. >> > >> >You are correct. As does academic achievement. >> >> Not really. Mensa has never used GPA or having a degree as >> qualification to join their society. They know that those measure are >> purely subjective. You could an MD and a dozen Ph D's and that >> wouldn't get you in. However, back in Obama's days in school, a high >> enough SAT or LSAT score would do the trick. In fact, you could be a >> high school drop out and get in if your LSAT score was high enough. >> >> Mensa does not accept SAT scores any more because of all the politics >> surrounding the test. > > Not that I care bout MENSA, but the SAT is not a meaningful test. The > ACT does better...at least it tests knowledge. I would like to see the > standardized test scores of people claiming to be intellectually > superior to others though. It's 100% telling when such people won't give > you their scores though. You know that if they were high they'd be > wearing them! Whatever. Of the three, who's scores are likely to be higher on *any* standardized test?
From: Carbon on 14 Sep 2008 11:43 On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:10:10 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: > On 14 Sep 2008 14:44:59 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > >>> This is all conjecture. I just would like to see Obama's SAT and LSAT >>> scores. These tests are standardized and correlate highly with IQ >>> tests. >> >>You are correct. As does academic achievement. > > Not really. Mensa has never used GPA or having a degree as > qualification to join their society. They know that those measure are > purely subjective. You could an MD and a dozen Ph D's and that wouldn't > get you in. However, back in Obama's days in school, a high enough SAT > or LSAT score would do the trick. In fact, you could be a high school > drop out and get in if your LSAT score was high enough. > > Mensa does not accept SAT scores any more because of all the politics > surrounding the test. If SAT scores are meaningless, why do you want to see Obama's?
From: Carbon on 14 Sep 2008 11:47
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:23:10 +0000, The Professor wrote: > One area where he is wrong is science, anyways, only cares about what > you *DID* yesterday. You can have 15 Nobel Prizes, and 1 billion in > grants, but if you don't do anything meaningful today, no one will care > about you. Not to say you won't get invited to give talks and have the > underachievers fawn over you, but people who are really making things > happen will only correspond with you if you are one of them; making > things happen. By that standard, aren't you an underachiever as well? |