From: Carbon on 14 Sep 2008 12:05
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:46:12 -0400, BAR wrote:
> William Clark wrote:
>> In article <SoGdnWZlWJV9yFHVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>>> William Clark wrote:
>>>> Your getting a little out of your depth here.
>>> I can see spelling and grammar are not your strongest suit either.
>>> Where is Obama's undergraduate transcript from Columbia?
>> Probably in his filing cabinet. Keep working on moving those goal
>> posts, It's getting more pathetic by the minute.
>> By the way, what a bout the data on grade inflation? Pretty weak, huh?
> "what a bout" What does that mean? Can you translate that into English?
Do you really want to get into a pissing match about spelling and
grammar? Think about it.
From: Carbon on 14 Sep 2008 12:11
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:53:45 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:18:39 GMT, The Professor <DBID(a)att.net> wrote:
> I don't know why Obama wont release his undergrad transcript, SAT or
> LSAT scores. My guess is that if they were really exceptional he would
> want everyone to know.
To compare himself to lightweights like McCain and Palin? Why would he
From: Bobby Knight on 14 Sep 2008 12:12
On 14 Sep 2008 15:47:03 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
>On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:23:10 +0000, The Professor wrote:
>> One area where he is wrong is science, anyways, only cares about what
>> you *DID* yesterday. You can have 15 Nobel Prizes, and 1 billion in
>> grants, but if you don't do anything meaningful today, no one will care
>> about you. Not to say you won't get invited to give talks and have the
>> underachievers fawn over you, but people who are really making things
>> happen will only correspond with you if you are one of them; making
>> things happen.
>By that standard, aren't you an underachiever as well?
Well, he can rely on the fact that he's posted here 40 times in the
last week, and who knows how many on other groups. Maybe that's
"making things happen". LOL
From: Jack Hollis on 14 Sep 2008 12:13
On 14 Sep 2008 15:25:43 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
>> I have no idea who had the best SAT scores.
>Let me try to make this easier for you. Both of Obama's parents were
>highly educated and intelligent.
Education is not the same as intelligence.
>Educated, intelligent people tend to
>have educated, intelligent children. That is simply the way of things.
You've never heard of the term regression to the mean.
>You seem to be getting tripped up over the fact that's he's black, but
>the truth the color of his skin had no bearing on his IQ. As hard as that
>is for you to swallow.
I'm sorry to disillusion you my friend, but it has been widely
reported that African Americans score significantly lower on
standardized IQ tests than whites.
This is from the Report of a Task Force established by the Board of
Scientific Affairs of the American Psychological Association
Released August 7, 1995. It was published in American Psychologist,
Feb 1996. Official Journal of the APA.
"African Americans. The relatively low mean of the distribution of
African-American intelligence test scores has been discussed for many
years. Although studies using different tests and samples yield a
range of results, the Black mean is typically about one standard
deviation (about 15 points) below that of Whites (Loehlin et al, 1975;
Jensen, 1980; Reynolds et al, 1987)."
There are some indications that the gap is shrinking a bit, but the
difference is still significant.
Obviously, group data says nothing about any individual.
From: Carbon on 14 Sep 2008 12:23
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:13:36 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> On 14 Sep 2008 15:25:43 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
>>You seem to be getting tripped up over the fact that's he's black, but
>>the truth the color of his skin had no bearing on his IQ. As hard as
>>that is for you to swallow.
> I'm sorry to disillusion you my friend, but it has been widely reported
> that African Americans score significantly lower on standardized IQ
> tests than whites.
[ blah, blah, blah ]
> Obviously, group data says nothing about any individual.
Exactly. Like Obama. Case closed.