From: The Professor on 14 Sep 2008 16:20 Jack Hollis wrote: > On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:18:39 GMT, The Professor <DBID(a)att.net> wrote: > > >> Mensa does not accept SAT scores any more because of all the politics > >> surrounding the test. > > > >Not that I care bout MENSA, but the SAT is not a meaningful test. > > Mensa agrees with you on this one. However, years ago it did have some > meaning. However ETS has re standardized the test and this makes it a > bit suspect as a true measure of intelligence. > > >The ACT > >does better...at least it tests knowledge. I would like to see the > >standardized test scores of people claiming to be intellectually superior to > >others though. It's 100% telling when such people won't give you their scores > >though. You know that if they were high they'd be wearing them! > > I don't know why Obama wont release his undergrad transcript, SAT or > LSAT scores. My guess is that if they were really exceptional he > would want everyone to know. Kerry's rather modest GPA didn't come > out until after the election. Most political types don't do all that well in school...spend time being BMOC, and don't spend time studying.
From: The Professor on 14 Sep 2008 16:23 BAR wrote: > Carbon wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:18:39 +0000, The Professor wrote: > >> Jack Hollis wrote: > >>> On 14 Sep 2008 14:44:59 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> This is all conjecture. I just would like to see Obama's SAT and > >>>>> LSAT scores. These tests are standardized and correlate highly with > >>>>> IQ tests. > >>>> You are correct. As does academic achievement. > >>> Not really. Mensa has never used GPA or having a degree as > >>> qualification to join their society. They know that those measure are > >>> purely subjective. You could an MD and a dozen Ph D's and that > >>> wouldn't get you in. However, back in Obama's days in school, a high > >>> enough SAT or LSAT score would do the trick. In fact, you could be a > >>> high school drop out and get in if your LSAT score was high enough. > >>> > >>> Mensa does not accept SAT scores any more because of all the politics > >>> surrounding the test. > >> Not that I care bout MENSA, but the SAT is not a meaningful test. The > >> ACT does better...at least it tests knowledge. I would like to see the > >> standardized test scores of people claiming to be intellectually > >> superior to others though. It's 100% telling when such people won't give > >> you their scores though. You know that if they were high they'd be > >> wearing them! > > > > Whatever. Of the three, who's scores are likely to be higher on *any* > > standardized test? > > Again, leadership is not something that is learned from books. Depends. Standzardized tests can measure your ability to dedicate yourself to the task at hand, as opposed to extending your childhood...throughout life in some cases!
From: Jack Hollis on 14 Sep 2008 16:27 On 14 Sep 2008 19:21:51 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> It's close that we don't know how intelligent Obama is. > >Law Review at Harvard. Proves nothing to me.
From: The Professor on 14 Sep 2008 16:31 Carbon wrote: > On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:40:32 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: > > On 14 Sep 2008 16:23:49 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > > wrote: > > > >>> Obviously, group data says nothing about any individual. > >> > >>Exactly. Like Obama. Case closed. > > > > It's close that we don't know how intelligent Obama is. > > Law Review at Harvard. > What kind of legit "Review" has a person with zero publications as an editor?
From: William Clark on 14 Sep 2008 16:34
In article <CfCdnYETa6hQwFDVnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d(a)comcast.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > William Clark wrote: > > In article <48CD2B5D.4CFD5CD0(a)att.net>, The Professor <DBID(a)att.net> > > wrote: > > > >> Jack Hollis wrote: > >> > >>> On 14 Sep 2008 14:44:59 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> This is all conjecture. I just would like to see Obama's SAT and LSAT > >>>>> scores. These tests are standardized and correlate highly with IQ > >>>>> tests. > >>>> You are correct. As does academic achievement. > >>> Not really. Mensa has never used GPA or having a degree as > >>> qualification to join their society. They know that those measure are > >>> purely subjective. You could an MD and a dozen Ph D's and that > >>> wouldn't get you in. However, back in Obama's days in school, a high > >>> enough SAT or LSAT score would do the trick. In fact, you could be a > >>> high school drop out and get in if your LSAT score was high enough. > >>> > >>> Mensa does not accept SAT scores any more because of all the politics > >>> surrounding the test. > >> Not that I care bout MENSA, but the SAT is not a meaningful test. The ACT > >> does better...at least it tests knowledge. I would like to see the > >> standardized test scores of people claiming to be intellectually superior > >> to > >> others though. It's 100% telling when such people won't give you their > >> scores > >> though. You know that if they were high they'd be wearing them! > > > > But it is to Jack and BAR. At least, until they see Obama's, at which > > time it will have to be re-interpreted. > > Ok, let's see Obama's. Go ahead and ask him for it. |