From: The_Professor on
On Sep 14, 3:57 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
wrote:
> In article <48CD74C0.6247E...(a)att.net>, The Professor <D...(a)att.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Carbon wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:40:32 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> > > > On 14 Sep 2008 16:23:49 GMT, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >>> Obviously, group data says nothing about any individual.
>
> > > >>Exactly. Like Obama. Case closed.
>
> > > > It's close that we don't know how intelligent Obama is.
>
> > > Law Review at Harvard.
>
> > What kind of legit "Review" has a person with zero publications as an editor?
>
> How many graduate students not in the sciences have published single
> author articles? Answer, essentially none.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Really? What kind of lame adademic review is edited by someone with no
experience at all, hasn't even published anything? The Harvard Law
Review...all hype and no substance? So what is that training for? How
to look good doing something you are not qualified for? :^)

I know, it's a cheap shot, but it was too juicy!
From: Jack Hollis on
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:07:53 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>> An IQ of 133 is pretty high Alan. This shows that McCain has "very
>> superior" intelligence. It's only seven point from the genius range.
>> I doubt that Obama could match it.
>
>Doesn't mean he has common senses.

I knew people with IQ's well above 140 who didn't have the common
sense to come in out of the rain.
From: Alan Baker on
In article <v7ydnemMubQdHVDVnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d(a)comcast.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <ussqc4lsjbndfbfta7chm7g5hd390q2h1h(a)4ax.com>,
> > Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 14 Sep 2008 19:21:51 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> It's close that we don't know how intelligent Obama is.
> >>> Law Review at Harvard.
> >> Proves nothing to me.
> >
> > Of course not. Every fact gets filtered through your thoroughly partisan
> > brain.
> >
> > GPA: doesn't matter if at Democrat's is higher, but is significant if a
> > Republican's is.
> >
> > Etc.
> >
>
> You really do need to do some studying up on American political
> campaigns. These campaigns we have had the last couple of decades really
> are tame in comparison to the ones 100 to 150 years ago. Politics is a
> really dirty business. Always has been and always will be. There is too
> much money at stake for those who gain control and their supporters.

What does that have to do with anything?

None of the people in this discussion are campaigning for office, but
many (including you) are willing to abandon personal integrity to stump
for the party of their choice.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Don Kirkman on
It seems to me I heard somewhere that BAR wrote in article
<jMWdnfxsFLs9-VDVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d(a)comcast.com>:

>Carbon wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:51:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>> Carbon wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:02:31 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>>>> Carbon wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:54:41 -0400, BAR wrote:

>>>>>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript?
>>>>>> Now you're being ridiculous. Palin took six years to finish a four
>>>>>> year degree. McCain graduated 905 out of 909. I can guarantee you
>>>>>> McCain's and Palin's handlers will be avoiding the subject of
>>>>>> academic achievement at all costs.
>>>>> McCain was 895 out or 899.
>>>> Is this supposed to be less pathetic?
>>> Pathetic no, fact yet. Facts are something that you cannot provide to
>>> support your assertions.

>> Bert, I'll type slow and you try to follow along. You're trying to smear
>> Obama's stellar academic career with affirmative action. But this is
>> Harvard Law we're talking about. It's conceivable they may have let in
>> some students with 3.9 GPA's instead of the usual 4.0. However, I can
>> *ASSURE* you that they wouldn't even look at anyone who graduated in the
>> BOTTOM HALF PERCENT OF THEIR CLASS. Or that took six years to finish a BA.

>> How can you possibly not realize that?

>I am not saying that Obama isn't smart. But, smart doesn't equal common
>sense and it doesn't meant that he always did the right thing. I've
>known people who scored nearly 1600 on the SAT and wound up flunking out
>for college their freshman year. And, the flushed a full ride
>scholarship with it. It doesn't mean they aren't smart it just means
>that they didn't apply themselves at the right time.

>If Obama had a stellar undergrad record at Columbia he would have posted
>it on his website as another gold star and a reason to vote for him.
>But, his resume is void of his undergrad studies and achievements. Why.
>It can't be because of his law degree from Harvard there is something
>that is being hidden.

>Obama was accepted into Harvard with a wink and nod from. His undergrad
>performance did not get him in.

Evidence that Harvard Law relaxed its standards to admit him would be
interesting. Got any?

[Begin]
It goes without saying that admissions to Harvard Law requires that a
student be prepared to face competition of the highest caliber, many
of whom will have been out of college for several years. Annually,
roughly 7,000 applications will be submitted for a little over 500
seats in the class. The acceptance rate is typically around 11%, with
LSAT scores generally ranging from 170-175, and GPAs typically ranging
between 3.80-3.95. Tuition is approaching $40,000, although Harvard
Law School awards significant need-based scholarships and claims that
some 80% of its student body is receiving some form of financial aid.

Like most other top law schools, Harvard Law has far more applications
for each seat than it can accept, and for any given combination of
LSAT and GPA, at least several potential students will present
themselves for admissions. Therefore, as with Yale and Stanford,
Harvard admissions has achieved of a reputation of being something of
a "black box": most of the successful admits will have distinguished
themselves from the thousands of other prospective students in some
way, often through a combination of a strong personal statement,
extracurricular activities, work experience, and recommendation
letters
[End]
http://www.top-law-schools.com/harvard-law-school.html
--
Don Kirkman
donsno2(a)charter.net
From: William Clark on
In article <t6htc4pe7dm1kl0jv0ik4le9qegfa072vc(a)4ax.com>,
Don Kirkman <donsno2(a)charter.net> wrote:

> It seems to me I heard somewhere that BAR wrote in article
> <jMWdnfxsFLs9-VDVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d(a)comcast.com>:
>
> >Carbon wrote:
> >> On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:51:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>> Carbon wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:02:31 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>>>> Carbon wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:54:41 -0400, BAR wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript?
> >>>>>> Now you're being ridiculous. Palin took six years to finish a four
> >>>>>> year degree. McCain graduated 905 out of 909. I can guarantee you
> >>>>>> McCain's and Palin's handlers will be avoiding the subject of
> >>>>>> academic achievement at all costs.
> >>>>> McCain was 895 out or 899.
> >>>> Is this supposed to be less pathetic?
> >>> Pathetic no, fact yet. Facts are something that you cannot provide to
> >>> support your assertions.
>
> >> Bert, I'll type slow and you try to follow along. You're trying to smear
> >> Obama's stellar academic career with affirmative action. But this is
> >> Harvard Law we're talking about. It's conceivable they may have let in
> >> some students with 3.9 GPA's instead of the usual 4.0. However, I can
> >> *ASSURE* you that they wouldn't even look at anyone who graduated in the
> >> BOTTOM HALF PERCENT OF THEIR CLASS. Or that took six years to finish a BA.
>
> >> How can you possibly not realize that?
>
> >I am not saying that Obama isn't smart. But, smart doesn't equal common
> >sense and it doesn't meant that he always did the right thing. I've
> >known people who scored nearly 1600 on the SAT and wound up flunking out
> >for college their freshman year. And, the flushed a full ride
> >scholarship with it. It doesn't mean they aren't smart it just means
> >that they didn't apply themselves at the right time.
>
> >If Obama had a stellar undergrad record at Columbia he would have posted
> >it on his website as another gold star and a reason to vote for him.
> >But, his resume is void of his undergrad studies and achievements. Why.
> >It can't be because of his law degree from Harvard there is something
> >that is being hidden.
>
> >Obama was accepted into Harvard with a wink and nod from. His undergrad
> >performance did not get him in.
>
> Evidence that Harvard Law relaxed its standards to admit him would be
> interesting. Got any?

You are joking, I take it? Evidence?
>
> [Begin]
> It goes without saying that admissions to Harvard Law requires that a
> student be prepared to face competition of the highest caliber, many
> of whom will have been out of college for several years. Annually,
> roughly 7,000 applications will be submitted for a little over 500
> seats in the class. The acceptance rate is typically around 11%, with
> LSAT scores generally ranging from 170-175, and GPAs typically ranging
> between 3.80-3.95. Tuition is approaching $40,000, although Harvard
> Law School awards significant need-based scholarships and claims that
> some 80% of its student body is receiving some form of financial aid.
>
> Like most other top law schools, Harvard Law has far more applications
> for each seat than it can accept, and for any given combination of
> LSAT and GPA, at least several potential students will present
> themselves for admissions. Therefore, as with Yale and Stanford,
> Harvard admissions has achieved of a reputation of being something of
> a "black box": most of the successful admits will have distinguished
> themselves from the thousands of other prospective students in some
> way, often through a combination of a strong personal statement,
> extracurricular activities, work experience, and recommendation
> letters
> [End]
> http://www.top-law-schools.com/harvard-law-school.html

This won't do you any good. This is not a discussion in which reason,
decency, and sanity are the standard.