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From: Alan Baker on 17 Sep 2008 11:45 In article <n_WdnVD7-dKh2lDVnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d(a)comcast.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > William Clark wrote: > > In article <pcadnVDPT-8Ft1DVnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >> William Clark wrote: > >>> In article <f9qdnUBNy6Pym1DVnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > >>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Carbon wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:59:42 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>>>> William Clark wrote: > >>>>>>> In article <De2dnWiJyp5Jh1HVnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > >>>>>>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript? > >>>>>>> I doubt you could read it correctly even if it was provided. If this > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>> your best effort to disparage his academic record, I think you should > >>>>>>> find something else to occupy your time. > >>>>>> He must have barely graduated from Columbia. > >>>>> You sure are wrong a lot. Harvard Law is the top law school in the > >>>>> country. They do not accept bottom of the barrel students (i.e. McCain > >>>>> and Palin), period. How can you possibly not know that? > >>>> If Obama's undergraduate degree from Columbia was awarded based upon > >>>> superior achievement or merit he would have put that on he resume. But, > >>>> he doesn't mention it. > >>> Perhaps in your world people have to flaunt the most meagre > >>> achievements. However, in others, and higher education in general, we > >>> tend not to make a fuss about them. It's deemed to be poor taste. > >> Titles are meaningless in academia? > > > > No, they are ranks, just like in the military you idolize. Of course, > > this has absolutely nothing to do with SATs, GPAs, etc. > > Rank in the military is given due to proven leadership skills and > capabilities, not from reading books and writing papers. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOL -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 17 Sep 2008 11:49 In article <jMWdnfxsFLs9-VDVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d(a)comcast.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > Carbon wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:51:16 -0400, BAR wrote: > >> Carbon wrote: > >>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:02:31 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>> Carbon wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:54:41 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript? > >>>>> Now you're being ridiculous. Palin took six years to finish a four > >>>>> year degree. McCain graduated 905 out of 909. I can guarantee you > >>>>> McCain's and Palin's handlers will be avoiding the subject of > >>>>> academic achievement at all costs. > >>>> McCain was 895 out or 899. > >>> Is this supposed to be less pathetic? > >> Pathetic no, fact yet. Facts are something that you cannot provide to > >> support your assertions. > > > > Bert, I'll type slow and you try to follow along. You're trying to smear > > Obama's stellar academic career with affirmative action. But this is > > Harvard Law we're talking about. It's conceivable they may have let in > > some students with 3.9 GPA's instead of the usual 4.0. However, I can > > *ASSURE* you that they wouldn't even look at anyone who graduated in the > > BOTTOM HALF PERCENT OF THEIR CLASS. Or that took six years to finish a BA. > > > > How can you possibly not realize that? > > I am not saying that Obama isn't smart. But, smart doesn't equal common > sense and it doesn't meant that he always did the right thing. I've > known people who scored nearly 1600 on the SAT and wound up flunking out > for college their freshman year. And, the flushed a full ride > scholarship with it. It doesn't mean they aren't smart it just means > that they didn't apply themselves at the right time. > > If Obama had a stellar undergrad record at Columbia he would have posted > it on his website as another gold star and a reason to vote for him. > But, his resume is void of his undergrad studies and achievements. Why. > It can't be because of his law degree from Harvard there is something > that is being hidden. > > Obama was accepted into Harvard with a wink and nod from. His undergrad > performance did not get him in. So you're "not saying [he] isn't smart" and then you turn around and attempt to tarnish his academic record... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 17 Sep 2008 11:54 In article <MuydnVA8iIUJiFDVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d(a)comcast.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > William Clark wrote: > > In article <SoGdnZ1kWJWdxVHVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >> Alan Baker wrote: > >>> In article <SoGdnWRlWJV3yVHVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > >>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Carbon wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:54:41 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript? > >>>>> Now you're being ridiculous. Palin took six years to finish a four year > >>>>> degree. McCain graduated 905 out of 909. I can guarantee you McCain's > >>>>> and > >>>>> Palin's handlers will be avoiding the subject of academic achievement > >>>>> at > >>>>> all costs. > >>>> McCain was 895 out or 899. > >>>> > >>>> Where was Obama ranked in his undergraduate class? > >>> I don't know. > >>> > >>> But we *do* know it was good enough to get him into Harvard Law, right? > >> No we don't. All we know is that Obama attended and graduated from > >> Harvard Law. We do not know how or why Obama was accepted to Harvard Law. > >> > >>> Do you supposed McCain's results would have been good enough? > >>> > >> The Navy most likely sent him to Navy PG school. Like they send most > >> line officers with moderate intelligence. > > > > No they did not. And remember, he only made captain as a career naval > > officer. Hiis father and grandfather made admiral. > > > > Pretty sad, eh? > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make Commander? > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make Captain? > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make Admiral? Why would that be relevant? > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class are given > command of a ship of war? Why would that be relevant? > > The percentages would amaze you. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 17 Sep 2008 11:56 In article <wclark2-8CCFC4.10552614092008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article <MuydnVA8iIUJiFDVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > William Clark wrote: > > > In article <SoGdnZ1kWJWdxVHVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Alan Baker wrote: > > >>> In article <SoGdnWRlWJV3yVHVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > > >>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Carbon wrote: > > >>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:54:41 -0400, BAR wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript? > > >>>>> Now you're being ridiculous. Palin took six years to finish a four > > >>>>> year > > >>>>> degree. McCain graduated 905 out of 909. I can guarantee you McCain's > > >>>>> and > > >>>>> Palin's handlers will be avoiding the subject of academic achievement > > >>>>> at > > >>>>> all costs. > > >>>> McCain was 895 out or 899. > > >>>> > > >>>> Where was Obama ranked in his undergraduate class? > > >>> I don't know. > > >>> > > >>> But we *do* know it was good enough to get him into Harvard Law, right? > > >> No we don't. All we know is that Obama attended and graduated from > > >> Harvard Law. We do not know how or why Obama was accepted to Harvard > > >> Law. > > >> > > >>> Do you supposed McCain's results would have been good enough? > > >>> > > >> The Navy most likely sent him to Navy PG school. Like they send most > > >> line officers with moderate intelligence. > > > > > > No they did not. And remember, he only made captain as a career naval > > > officer. Hiis father and grandfather made admiral. > > > > > > Pretty sad, eh? > > > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make Commander? > > Approximately 60-80% of those with time served (3 yrs as Lt. Cmdr) > > > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make Captain? > > About 40-60% of those eligible (3 yrs as Cmdr) > > > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make Admiral? > > About 45% of those eligible (3 yrs as Capt) > > > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class are given > > command of a ship of war? > > Of entering Ensigns, about 38% to frigates or destroyers, about 11% to a > major command (cruiser, destroyer squadron) > > > > The percentages would amaze you. > > Nothing amazing about that. What did McCain ever command? One > Replacement Air Group, and that appointment was seen as favoritism to > his father. And all of a sudden, BAR is nowhere to be seen... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: William Clark on 17 Sep 2008 12:04
In article <alangbaker-B1C443.08560517092008(a)shawnews.vc.shawcable.net>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <wclark2-8CCFC4.10552614092008(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, > William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > In article <MuydnVA8iIUJiFDVnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > William Clark wrote: > > > > In article <SoGdnZ1kWJWdxVHVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Alan Baker wrote: > > > >>> In article <SoGdnWRlWJV3yVHVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > > > >>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Carbon wrote: > > > >>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:54:41 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Where is his undergraduate transcript? > > > >>>>> Now you're being ridiculous. Palin took six years to finish a four > > > >>>>> year > > > >>>>> degree. McCain graduated 905 out of 909. I can guarantee you > > > >>>>> McCain's > > > >>>>> and > > > >>>>> Palin's handlers will be avoiding the subject of academic > > > >>>>> achievement > > > >>>>> at > > > >>>>> all costs. > > > >>>> McCain was 895 out or 899. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Where was Obama ranked in his undergraduate class? > > > >>> I don't know. > > > >>> > > > >>> But we *do* know it was good enough to get him into Harvard Law, > > > >>> right? > > > >> No we don't. All we know is that Obama attended and graduated from > > > >> Harvard Law. We do not know how or why Obama was accepted to Harvard > > > >> Law. > > > >> > > > >>> Do you supposed McCain's results would have been good enough? > > > >>> > > > >> The Navy most likely sent him to Navy PG school. Like they send most > > > >> line officers with moderate intelligence. > > > > > > > > No they did not. And remember, he only made captain as a career naval > > > > officer. Hiis father and grandfather made admiral. > > > > > > > > Pretty sad, eh? > > > > > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make > > > Commander? > > > > Approximately 60-80% of those with time served (3 yrs as Lt. Cmdr) > > > > > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make Captain? > > > > About 40-60% of those eligible (3 yrs as Cmdr) > > > > > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class make Admiral? > > > > About 45% of those eligible (3 yrs as Capt) > > > > > > Do you know what percentage of Naval Officers of any class are given > > > command of a ship of war? > > > > Of entering Ensigns, about 38% to frigates or destroyers, about 11% to a > > major command (cruiser, destroyer squadron) > > > > > > The percentages would amaze you. > > > > Nothing amazing about that. What did McCain ever command? One > > Replacement Air Group, and that appointment was seen as favoritism to > > his father. > > And all of a sudden, BAR is nowhere to be seen... Yes, facts and data seem to scare them away. |