From: Frankenshank on 14 Sep 2006 10:29 AJ Bonar was featured in this month's GOLF magazine, the article summed up the core of AJ's "philosophy"... The clubface closing acts as a lever which adds power to the golf swing. I've read Mike Dalecki's positive feedback on using this technique, and trying it myself I found that the ball jumped off the clubface. With my previous out to in swing path, of course this produced dead left pulls, but man they had some distance. It really felt like getting something for nothing. So anyhoo... where does Harvey Penick fit in here? I can't recall chapter and verse, but in Little Red Book he says something like "the crossing of the forearms puts the punch in the golf swing" Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this just an easy way of saying the same thing AJ teaches? FrankenShank
From: Ken Meltzer on 14 Sep 2006 11:20 Frankenshank wrote: > AJ Bonar was featured in this month's GOLF magazine, the article summed > up the > core of AJ's "philosophy"... The clubface closing acts as a lever which > adds power to the golf swing. > > I've read Mike Dalecki's positive feedback on using this technique, and > trying it myself I found that the ball jumped off the clubface. With my > previous out to in swing path, of course this produced dead left > pulls, but man they had some distance. It really felt like getting > something for nothing. > > So anyhoo... where does Harvey Penick fit in here? I can't recall > chapter and verse, but in Little Red Book he says something like "the > crossing of the forearms puts the punch in the golf swing" > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this just an easy way of saying the > same thing AJ teaches? I think it's similar to Tom Watson's discussion about rotating the left forearm back and forth, and those who say "shake hands with the target" on the follow-through. It's all about releasing the club. Yesterday, I read the Golf Magazine article, and re-watched AJ's "The Truth About Golf" DVD. The first time I watched it, I felt it was no more and no less than "release the clubhead." After a second viewing, I feel the same way. I have no doubt that AJ's approach gets some people to do something that they might not be inclined to do otherwise, and to their benefit. I just don't see this as some previously uncovered "secret." Best, Ken
From: Rob Davis on 14 Sep 2006 11:35 Frankenshank wrote: > AJ Bonar was featured in this month's GOLF magazine, the article summed > up the > core of AJ's "philosophy"... The clubface closing acts as a lever which > adds power to the golf swing. > > I've read Mike Dalecki's positive feedback on using this technique, and > trying it myself I found that the ball jumped off the clubface. With my > previous out to in swing path, of course this produced dead left > pulls, but man they had some distance. It really felt like getting > something for nothing. > > So anyhoo... where does Harvey Penick fit in here? I can't recall > chapter and verse, but in Little Red Book he says something like "the > crossing of the forearms puts the punch in the golf swing" > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this just an easy way of saying the > same thing AJ teaches? > > FrankenShank > Interesting ... I've read the Penick books several times and didn't remember that quote. But I googled it and found what you're talking about. It's actually attributed in the book to Jack Burke Sr, as part of a list of "maxims" he compiled from discussions with different teachers and players (one of whom was Harvey). So, it sounds like kinda' common wisdom ... at least back in those days. Just out of style a bit now with the emphasis on "big muscle" swings. Rob
From: Frankenshank on 14 Sep 2006 11:38 Rob Davis wrote: But I googled it and found what you're talking It's actually attributed in the book to Jack Burke Sr, as part of > a list of "maxims" he compiled from discussions with different teachers > and players (one of whom was Harvey). > > So, it sounds like kinda' common wisdom ... at least back in those days. > Just out of style a bit now with the emphasis on "big muscle" swings. > > Rob Thanks Rob... pars and birdies to you! FrankenShank
From: Birdie Bill on 14 Sep 2006 19:13 Frankenshank wrote: > AJ Bonar was featured in this month's GOLF magazine, the article summed > up the > core of AJ's "philosophy"... The clubface closing acts as a lever which > adds power to the golf swing. > > I've read Mike Dalecki's positive feedback on using this technique, and > trying it myself I found that the ball jumped off the clubface. With my > previous out to in swing path, of course this produced dead left > pulls, but man they had some distance. It really felt like getting > something for nothing. > > So anyhoo... where does Harvey Penick fit in here? I can't recall > chapter and verse, but in Little Red Book he says something like "the > crossing of the forearms puts the punch in the golf swing" > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this just an easy way of saying the > same thing AJ teaches? > > FrankenShank There are no secrets in golf. Just things that some people haven't learned yet. And things that some teachers don't emphasize much because they are so busy wrapped up teaching other details, or writing about what they teach their Tour Pro students who have completely different problems than Hacker Joe. AJ's teaching isn't anything new, but he cuts to the core of one very important essential of a good golf swing: controlling the clubface. And if you get that part right, you will have a lot more fun on the golf course, even if you still don't have a perfect swing. There are a few things on AJ's video that I haven't seen elsewhere, though. Drawing the clubface in your hand, for example. And at least one other thing, which escapes me at the moment.
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