From: Alan Illeman on

"AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message news:CHcwg.39013$AB3.32182(a)fed1read02...
>
> "Frankenshank" <groovemeister747(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1153497364.688921.84570(a)i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > David Laville wrote:
> >
> >> That's a hitters hip action, it's called "cross lateral". Not
> >> compatible with swinging.
> >
> > As always, David, you're a font of knowledge on the golf swing.
> > And I mean that in all sincerity.
> >
> > How does one determine if they should use a hitting or swinging
> > approach to golf?
> >
> > FrankenShank
>
> Is it a valid observation that the swing usually has more weight distributed
> towards the heels and the hit has more weight distributed towards the balls
> of the feet?

NO

> What would be a hip shift drill for a swinger?

See your TGM professional



From: David Laville on
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:35:05 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
<goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote:

>Is it a valid observation that the swing usually has more weight distributed
>towards the heels and the hit has more weight distributed towards the balls
>of the feet?
>
>What would be a hip shift drill for a swinger?

The weight should be on the balls of the feet. It doesn't matter if
you're a hitter (muscular thrust) or a swinger (centrifugal force) the
weight distribution is the same.

A hitter slides his hip parallel to the inside/out path of the club.
As per the Aaron Baddely drill the shaft on the ground would parallel
the inside\out path of the club and is the angle the drill has you
sliding parallel too. A swinger slides his hips parallel to the
target line.


David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
From: David Laville on
On 21 Jul 2006 08:56:04 -0700, "Frankenshank"
<groovemeister747(a)aol.com> wrote:

>How does one determine if they should use a hitting or swinging
>approach to golf?

In simplest terms, if you use your turning body to swing the club
you're a swinger. If you swing with your arms you're a hitter.
Swinger=centrifugal force. Hitter=muscular thrust.


David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
From: David Laville on
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:34:10 -0400, "Alan Illeman"
<illemann(a)surfbest.net> wrote:

>In a recorded conversation with Lynn Blake and Tom Tomasello,
>Homer Kelley says that a player should learn Swinging and then
>Hitting and select them just as an artist selects brushes.

Homer also believed the swinger shouldn't use a 4 barrel approach. He
thought it did more harm than good. Only the hitter should use the 4
barrel approach.


David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
From: AKA Gray Asphalt on

"David Laville" <dlaville(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:r5o2c2tmtp0umitacan3mpbcvgl331iept(a)4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:35:05 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
> <goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>
>>Is it a valid observation that the swing usually has more weight
>>distributed
>>towards the heels and the hit has more weight distributed towards the
>>balls
>>of the feet?
>>
>>What would be a hip shift drill for a swinger?
>
> The weight should be on the balls of the feet. It doesn't matter if
> you're a hitter (muscular thrust) or a swinger (centrifugal force) the
> weight distribution is the same.
>
> A hitter slides his hip parallel to the inside/out path of the club.
> As per the Aaron Baddely drill the shaft on the ground would parallel
> the inside\out path of the club and is the angle the drill has you
> sliding parallel too. A swinger slides his hips parallel to the
> target line.
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982

It seems that SLAP has one swing as its model. Is it a swinger's swing or a
hitter's swing? Does the idea that Peter Jacobsen talks about, "one vs two
plane swing" fit into this discussion?
Thanks


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