From: Alan Illeman on

"David Laville" <dlaville(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:66o2c25fipmlo3tn1bbqtinn1tlrjck9ph(a)4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:34:10 -0400, "Alan Illeman"
> <illemann(a)surfbest.net> wrote:
>
> >In a recorded conversation with Lynn Blake and Tom Tomasello,
> >Homer Kelley says that a player should learn Swinging and then
> >Hitting and select them just as an artist selects brushes.
>
> Homer also believed the swinger shouldn't use a 4 barrel approach. He
> thought it did more harm than good. Only the hitter should use the 4
> barrel approach.

To what degree can a swinger take advantage of extensor action?


From: AKA Gray Asphalt on

"David Laville" <dlaville(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> On 21 Jul 2006 08:56:04 -0700, "Frankenshank"
> <groovemeister747(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>>How does one determine if they should use a hitting or swinging
>>approach to golf?
>
> In simplest terms, if you use your turning body to swing the club
> you're a swinger. If you swing with your arms you're a hitter.
> Swinger=centrifugal force. Hitter=muscular thrust.
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982

How are SLAP and "The Golfing Machine" similar or different?


From: David Laville on
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 01:11:53 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
<goodidea1950(a)hotmail.spam.com> wrote:


>It seems that SLAP has one swing as its model. Is it a swinger's swing or a
>hitter's swing?

It's a swingers swing.

>Does the idea that Peter Jacobsen talks about, "one vs two
>plane swing" fit into this discussion?

I started reading the book by Hardy but it was one of the books
destroyed when Katrina flooded my house. So, I can't comment on the
one plane vs. the two plane swing, I don't know enough about it.




David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
From: David Laville on
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 10:37:29 -0400, "Alan Illeman"
<illemann(a)surfbest.net> wrote:

>> Homer also believed the swinger shouldn't use a 4 barrel approach. He
>> thought it did more harm than good. Only the hitter should use the 4
>> barrel approach.
>
>To what degree can a swinger take advantage of extensor action?

To the degree that it helps push and keep the left arm firm. If the
swinger is applying extensor action than he has to apply it at a rate
that doesn't exceed his use of centrifugal force. If he does than
he's crossing into hitters territory.


David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
From: Alan Baker on
In article <1153436316.787404.218250(a)m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
"larryrsf" <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote:

> Frankenshank wrote:
> > Golf Digest had this great drill from Aaron Baddely:
> >
> > Assume your address position, lay a short iron on the ground with the
> > grip end touching
> > your inside right heel and the shaft touching the front of your left
> > toe (for right handers).
> >
> > Make a swing and start the downswing by shifting your hips along the
> > line of the shaft on the ground.
> > (that is along an imaginary line extending up from the shaft on the
> > ground... ALAN!)
> >
> > Doing this will keep you from spinning out with the hips before you've
> > gotten over onto your left side.
> >
> > and now we await ALAN's comments on my grammar! ;-)
> >
> > Frankenshank
>
> http://www.megspace.com/sports/moetown/videos/doyle_clip.html--watch
> Allen Doyle. He doesn't allow his hips to turn-- the wide stance
> prevents that-- but he makes a very athletic hip slide toward the
> target --WHILE still coiled, exactly what a baseball batter does as he
> "steps into it."
>
> Larry W (RSG Champ!)

Utter nonsense.

Even that terrible "video" shows that Doyle turns his hips like pretty
much everyone else who knows how to play.
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