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From: larryrsf on 30 Jul 2006 18:54 Birdie Bill wrote: if you really think Corey Pavin & Allen Doyle's > swings are the same, you need much better glasses. I don't think their physical swings are similar- but their methods are similar in that both golfers have made major adjustments in order to play with total control. Pavin simply relaxes and swings with clubhead speed no higher than most amateurs. Doyle truncates his backswing severely in order NOT to lose control of the clubhead position, plane, etc. They are to be admired because they have have made pragmatic adjustiments that no modern teaching pro would have advised--So they ignored the "conventional wisdom" and do what works. They are smarter than most golfers. Larry
From: Ernie on 30 Jul 2006 19:02 In article <1154300056.692099.27700(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "larryrsf" <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote: > Birdie Bill wrote: > > if you really think Corey Pavin & Allen Doyle's > > swings are the same, you need much better glasses. > > I don't think their physical swings are similar- but their methods are > similar in that both golfers have made major adjustments in order to > play with total control. Pavin simply relaxes and swings with clubhead > speed no higher than most amateurs. Doyle truncates his backswing > severely in order NOT to lose control of the clubhead position, plane, > etc. They are to be admired because they have have made pragmatic > adjustiments that no modern teaching pro would have advised--So they > ignored the "conventional wisdom" and do what works. They are smarter > than most golfers. > > Larry So most amateurs can hit it 263 yards? And you told us that modern teaching pros knew precisely what to teach these days; that they were learning it from the PGA of America! Were you lying or just completely wrong?
From: Rob Davis on 30 Jul 2006 22:44 larryrsf wrote: > Rob Davis wrote: > >>larryrsf wrote: >> >>>I seldom ... golf ... anymore. >> >>Yep, just another typical Larry post. Did anyone see any words >>between those listed? >> >> >>>On the tee my goal is to get it in the middle of the fairway--even if >>>only 200 yards. Then my goal is to hit it toward the green-- but never >>>sacrificing accuracy for distance. If getting it there might require >>>too much effort for a relaxed swing, I just bunt it straight --knowing >>>I will have a perfect lie for a pitchup. Etc. etc. A different way >>>to play golf-- but what I call "engineer golf." >>> >>>Larry >> >>A perfect recipe for bogey golf. If that's your goal then you can quit >>now ... you've got it. For most of us "serious" golfers, we're expecting >>and playing for better than bogey. >> >>Rob > > > Yeah, I see you guys out there hitting it sideways over and over > again. The harder you try, the more you mishit and slice. One would > think the intelligent among you would someday arrive at the same > conclusion I did-- that we lose form when we exert more than a > comfortable level of effort. So stop doing that!!! duhhhh But > you won't-- next year you'll still not know where your drive is going, > playing the tree line, dropping another after OB, etc. etc. Have fun. > but that ain't me. > > Larry > Wrong again (but we've come to expect that). You haven't seen anyone from this newsgroup "out there", so you have no clue what you're talking about. I'm actually a fairly straight and realtively short hitter (about 230 is a decent drive for me, occasionally a little more), and pretty conservative in my game. A good round for me is about 8 pars and 10 bogeys ... maybe the occasional double, but usually not more than 1 or 2 in a round. Current handicap is 9.0 ... I'd like it to be maybe a couple of strokes better eventually ... but I don't see how that can't happen if I just "bunt" it. Rob
From: JJK on 30 Jul 2006 23:11 "larryrsf" wrote: > Yeah, the serious golfers have left RSG I am afraid. I seldom post > anything about golf here anymore. The forum seems to be primarily > nutcases like Bobby Knight and his clique-- who spend their entire day > every day lurking over their computer watching for posts on RSG--and > then posting venom in reply. They guard this like a hummingbird > guarding the feeder. This is THEIRS and how dare anyone post without > paying homage to the clique. <snip> You earlier criticized Bobby Knight for cursing at you. Yet, you often belittle him and many others here. Frankly, your claim that you display proper behavior in this newsgroup is unfounded.
From: Wayne on 31 Jul 2006 00:16
larryrsf wrote: > > Rob Davis wrote: >> larryrsf wrote: >> > I seldom ... golf ... anymore. >> >> Yep, just another typical Larry post. Did anyone see any words >> between those listed? >> >> > On the tee my goal is to get it in the middle of the fairway--even if >> > only 200 yards. Then my goal is to hit it toward the green-- but never >> > sacrificing accuracy for distance. If getting it there might require >> > too much effort for a relaxed swing, I just bunt it straight --knowing >> > I will have a perfect lie for a pitchup. Etc. etc. A different way >> > to play golf-- but what I call "engineer golf." >> > >> > Larry >> >> A perfect recipe for bogey golf. If that's your goal then you can quit >> now ... you've got it. For most of us "serious" golfers, we're expecting >> and playing for better than bogey. >> >> Rob > > Yeah, I see you guys out there hitting it sideways over and over > again. The harder you try, the more you mishit and slice. One would > think the intelligent among you would someday arrive at the same > conclusion I did-- that we lose form when we exert more than a > comfortable level of effort. So stop doing that!!! duhhhh But > you won't-- next year you'll still not know where your drive is going, > playing the tree line, dropping another after OB, etc. etc. Have fun. > but that ain't me. That's funny, Larry. Today, I hit 11 out of 14 fairways damn near coming out of my shoes with the driver. OK, that's not entirely true - I hit 3-wood twice and 4-iron once because the holes didn't have landing areas for a driver. So, 8 out of 11 with the driver, trying to hit it as hard as I could. On one of them, I missed the fairway by the width of the ball. On the other two, I missed them by no more than 10 feet. Wayne -- www.nhlfa.com "There are only two things I can't stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other peoples' cultures, and the Dutch." -Nigel Powers |