From: Paul Schmitz-Josten on
Dear friends,

I'm still full of memories of our great weekend at Hawkstone Park.
Therefore, it would be a pleasure for me to fulfill my promise and host you
on a golf weekend in my country. Here are my ideas:

There is a direct connection from Nuremberg to Stansted with
www.airberlin.de, and on their homepage I found as an example:
From Sat Sept. 15th to Tue Sept 18th the flight price to date is
140 � / 95 GBP (a golf bag up to 20 kg is free of charge).
These prices are rising, though...

Connection flights from Manchester, Glasgow and Belfast may be available.
The schedule brings you to Nuremberg in the morning and back home in the
evening. That leaves almost four days for golf, leisure and sightseeing.

There is a nice hotel 50 km from Nuremberg, close to several interesting
golf courses. <http://www.winkler-braeu.de/index01.html>
A three night arrangement including (continental but buffel) breakfast and
one dinner is available from 147 � / 100 GBP per person in a double room.
A similar two night arrangement will cost from 116 � / 80 GBP up.
They offer reduced greenfees (not included), so each round will cost about
30-50 � / 20-35 GBP.
I would have to arrange transport, but that's not too big a problem.

The group size is not limited, both to the low and high side.

Both dates and accomodation are examples which may be changed on agreement.
We might stay in Nuremberg with 4 18-hole courses and 2 9-hole courses
around.
We might also go to Regensburg (100 km from Nuremberg, by train?),
a nice historic town with two golf courses (one of them being my local
favourite) plus others in easy reach, or to a lake area 60 km from
Nuremberg with three other courses around.

Ciao,

Paul
From: Demetri (Durram) on
Paul Schmitz-Josten wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> I'm still full of memories of our great weekend at Hawkstone Park.
> Therefore, it would be a pleasure for me to fulfill my promise and host you
> on a golf weekend in my country. Here are my ideas:
>
> There is a direct connection from Nuremberg to Stansted with
> www.airberlin.de, and on their homepage I found as an example:
> From Sat Sept. 15th to Tue Sept 18th the flight price to date is
> 140 � / 95 GBP (a golf bag up to 20 kg is free of charge).
> These prices are rising, though...
>
> Connection flights from Manchester, Glasgow and Belfast may be available.
> The schedule brings you to Nuremberg in the morning and back home in the
> evening. That leaves almost four days for golf, leisure and sightseeing.
>
> There is a nice hotel 50 km from Nuremberg, close to several interesting
> golf courses. <http://www.winkler-braeu.de/index01.html>
> A three night arrangement including (continental but buffel) breakfast and
> one dinner is available from 147 � / 100 GBP per person in a double room.
> A similar two night arrangement will cost from 116 � / 80 GBP up.
> They offer reduced greenfees (not included), so each round will cost about
> 30-50 � / 20-35 GBP.
> I would have to arrange transport, but that's not too big a problem.
>
> The group size is not limited, both to the low and high side.
>
> Both dates and accomodation are examples which may be changed on agreement.
> We might stay in Nuremberg with 4 18-hole courses and 2 9-hole courses
> around.
> We might also go to Regensburg (100 km from Nuremberg, by train?),
> a nice historic town with two golf courses (one of them being my local
> favourite) plus others in easy reach, or to a lake area 60 km from
> Nuremberg with three other courses around.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Paul

Hi Paul,

Do you have any links to the golf courses you mention that may whet the
appetite :-p

--
D
From: Paul Schmitz-Josten on
Demetri (Durram) in <f2k62f$6sb$1$8302bc10(a)news.demon.co.uk>:

>Do you have any links to the golf courses you mention that may whet the
>appetite :-p

Three around the before-mentioned Hotel:
http://www.golfclub-herrnhof.de/ => Platz => select the individual holes

http://www.juragolf.de/content/habsberg.asp The king of all courses here
(scroll down and click on the hole numbers on the scorecard)
http://www.juragolf.de/content/hilzhofen.asp (same here)

Three around the lake area:
http://www.golfclub-abenberg.de/cms/front_content.php?idcat=114
http://www.golfanlage-zollmuehle.de/ => Golfanlage => 18 Loch...
http://www.gclichtenau.de/neu/index.asp => Golfplatz => Platz�bersicht

Six around Nuremberg:
http://www.golfclub-reichswald.de/ => Fairway => Fairway-F�hrer (not with
Mozilla)
http://www.golfclub-fuerth.de/ => Pl�tze => individual holes
http://www.gc-erlangen.de/ (second nine have just been built, no
information on their homepage yet)
http://www.golfclub-herzogenaurach.de/hindex.htm => Golfplatz => Birdiebook
9 holes: http://www.gc-puschendorf.de/ => Die Anlage => Platz
9 holes: http://golfrange.itmr.de/n131849/n.html => Platz N�rnberg

Three around Regensburg:
my favourite: http://www.gcregensburg.de/ => Der Platz => click on the
numbers
http://www.golfsinzing.de/ => Golfanlage => 18 Loch...
http://www.golf-badabbach.de/ => Die Golfanlage => Der 18 Loch...

Ciao,

Paul
From: Paul Schmitz-Josten on
I should have said something more because the self-presentation of these
courses isn't so convincing sometimes.

All these courses are parkland courses in more or less undulating
landscape.

>Three around the before-mentioned Hotel:

Herrnhof is charming because it is quiet, in a broad ascending valley.
Quite open fairways, sometimes framed by woods, a bit old-fashioned design.
>http://www.golfclub-herrnhof.de/ => Platz => select the individual holes

Habsberg: A breathtaking modern Graham Marsh design with about 90 bunkers,
quite open, slightly sloping.
>http://www.juragolf.de/content/habsberg.asp The king of all courses here
>(scroll down and click on the hole numbers on the scorecard)

Hilzhofen: A bit more hilly and partly with more trees. This combination
guarantees some challenging holes. Sometimes crowded.
>http://www.juragolf.de/content/hilzhofen.asp (same here)

>Three around the lake area:

Abenberg: Through the woods, mostly flat, a variety of different holes.
>http://www.golfclub-abenberg.de/cms/front_content.php?idcat=114

Zollm�hle: Front nine hilly, back nine in a creek's valley, some long holes
with water in play, especially the last one: 609 yd (not the longest one)
twice crossed by the creek! Three ladies are responsible for this course,
creating a very friendly atmosphere.
>http://www.golfanlage-zollmuehle.de/ => Golfanlage => 18 Loch...

Lichtenau: Also quite varied holes, light undulation.
>http://www.gclichtenau.de/neu/index.asp => Golfplatz => Platz�bersicht


>Six around Nuremberg:
Nuremberg: an exclusive club, all fairways closely lined with furs, some
water, flat.
>http://www.golfclub-reichswald.de/ => Fairway => Fairway-F�hrer (not with
>Mozilla)

F�rth: Also flat, varied bordering with trees.
>http://www.golfclub-fuerth.de/ => Pl�tze => individual holes

Erlangen: All new, no information available.
>http://www.gc-erlangen.de/ (second nine have just been built, no
>information on their homepage yet)

Herzogenaurach: quite open on former fields yet interesting.
>http://www.golfclub-herzogenaurach.de/hindex.htm => Golfplatz => Birdiebook

Puschendorf: A small area but an interesting course. I consider it
difficult.
>9 holes: http://www.gc-puschendorf.de/ => Die Anlage => Platz

GolfRange: My home course, short but challenging due to water and
up-adn-down lies.
>9 holes: http://golfrange.itmr.de/n131849/n.html => Platz N�rnberg

>Three around Regensburg:
Thiergarten Regensburg: My favourite, hilly, through the woods but fair.
>my favourite: http://www.gcregensburg.de/ => Der Platz => click on the
>numbers

Sinzing: Front nine hilly, back nine flat (along the Danube river).
Interesting.
>http://www.golfsinzing.de/ => Golfanlage => 18 Loch...

Bad Abbach: Haven't been there yet, found a description as undulating with
some lakes and creeks.
>http://www.golf-badabbach.de/ => Die Golfanlage => Der 18 Loch...

Ciao,

Paul