From: O on
In article <avj2r5l950pt9mho1j05sj8b4vj1t9sgro(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee
<howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:56:11 -0700 (PDT), Art Harris
> <n2ah(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Things will change incrementally. Eventually there will be a public
> >option, and then perhaps a Single Payer system. Or we could go the
> >route of Switzerland and treat Insurance companies as regulated
> >utilities. The Republicans have once again chosen to be on the wrong
> >side of history. They will become irrelevant except in the deep south.
>
> People forget. But the Republicans need to change something, stand
> *for* something other than obstructionism. Don't keep reminding the
> people that they voted against whatever we get. And don't be the
> party of rudeness.

People forget. That worked for the Democrats during the Dubya days.

-Owen
From: Billy on
In article <16k2r5t2ur4uc2hmif36u58ansndujflk9(a)4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:16:18 -0700 (PDT), mark
> <markstenroos(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >They're yesterday's news. We need two parties in this country. Maybe
> >the best thing would be for the Ds to become the centrist party (which
> >they are in everything but their PR) and for the progressives to form
> >a truly left-wing party in this country. The Ds could then occupy the
> >territory the Rs held and the liberals could take the place of the Ds.

The Democrats have already moved further right than, say Nixon, with
his health care policy, Bush's foreign wars, and with much lower taxes
than Reagan had - the same lack of regard to balancing the budget.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
From: Howard Brazee on
On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:30:25 -0400, jtees4 <jtees4(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>He is beholden to the healthcare industry despite what he says, just
>like he's beholden to wall street...I mean...come on...he got more
>from Golman Sacks than anyone! You mention a public option...but think
>about it...a public option is just a word they fed you because they
>really didn't have the balls to do the truly liberal thing which would
>actually be universal health care. Public option is just a watered
>down concept. If I were liberal I would demand Obama push for united
>health care.

Obama's not a liberal. He's as beholden to special interests as his
predecessor was.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
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