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From: R&B on 21 Feb 2010 14:21 On 2010-02-21 13:28:27 -0500, Howard Brazee said: > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:37:04 -0500, "R&B" > <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > >> But of all my little character quirks, one of the biggest is that once >> I've been lied to, I can never trust the liar again. > > I'm curious. What lie did Tiger tell you? You're missing the point, Howard (which is fairly standard fare for you). Tiger didn't tell ME any lies. He did, however, attempt to portray himself as something he was not. Not only to me, but to you, and to everyone else, all in the name of creating a concocted image that he knew full well would benefit him financially by making him appear desirable for corporations to sign as an endorser and to pay handsome sums of money. But that business arrangement only works if we (the public) buys into the image. If that public buy-in isn't there, there's no business reason for these corporations to associate themselves with the image he concocted. So, while no one was holding a gun to anyone's head insisting that they buy into that image, there was a voluntary buy-in by millions of people. Foolish? Maybe. But no more so than buying into anything that seems plausible, only to discover it was a fabrication. But again, it's not a question of whether anyone was FORCED to buy into the image. The germane issue here is whether Tiger willingly and deliberately deceived the public to benefit himself financially. There's no question that he did. And now he admits it. That's what the apology was all about. See, if he can't "rebuild the brand," there will be no more mega-million dollar endorsement deals. So he has to rehabilitate his name (image) in order to get sufficient public buy-in again so he can start reclaiming some of the business he's lost in the last few months. It's all about money, sir. That's all any of this has ever been about. I'm surprised you don't recognize that. It's as obvious as the deer-in-the-headlights look on your face. Randy
From: bknight on 21 Feb 2010 14:44 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:23:03 -0500, "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: >On 2010-02-21 13:33:18 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net said: >> LOL. He may have disappointed you but he lied to you? Nope, he lived >> a lie to his wife, not to you. > > > >He deceived the public.? Oh come on Randy. What major superstar hasn't? You've certainly heard that Arnie has, in the same way as Tiger. He just didn't get caught. > >That's what the public apology was all about, Bobby. It's about >rebuilding his brand. Plain and simple. > >Randy Of course, but he is also doing what is necessary to mend the fences at home. BK
From: Howard Brazee on 21 Feb 2010 15:47 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:21:38 -0500, "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: >>> But of all my little character quirks, one of the biggest is that once >>> I've been lied to, I can never trust the liar again. >> >> I'm curious. What lie did Tiger tell you? > >You're missing the point, Howard (which is fairly standard fare for you). > >Tiger didn't tell ME any lies. > >He did, however, attempt to portray himself as something he was not. >Not only to me, but to you, and to everyone else, all in the name of >creating a concocted image that he knew full well would benefit him >financially by making him appear desirable for corporations to sign as >an endorser and to pay handsome sums of money. But that business >arrangement only works if we (the public) buys into the image. I didn't notice him portraying himself to me, you, and everybody else as a model husband. Please give me an example of him portraying himself as something he was not? Was it driving a Buick? Drinking Gatorade? Wearing a watch? Using Nike equipment? Cursing on the course? Throwing a club? (not as hard as Villegas did this morning). Did he discuss how good his marriage was? (At least he didn't have an affair with another tour pro's wife). All these nebulous statements about his portrayal without examples lead me to believe that it is the person wearing the rose colored glasses who saw what they wanted to see, not what Tiger was actually doing. Did all of the other people who were in advertisements without spotless marriages betray us too? When did you first feel betrayed by Palmer or Jordan? Tiger didn't betray us - any betrayal is between our self-created expectations and wishes vs reality. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 21 Feb 2010 15:49 On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:21:38 -0500, "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: >It's all about money, sir. That's all any of this has ever been about. > >I'm surprised you don't recognize that. It's as obvious as the >deer-in-the-headlights look on your face. That's what ads are about. But I knew that already. I never did believe they were about marital fidelity. I guess it was those who were unaware of how things work who believe themselves to be betrayed. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 21 Feb 2010 15:50
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:23:03 -0500, "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > >He deceived the public. Please cite examples of his deception to the public. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |