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From: Denis Cary on 19 Mar 2010 11:59
I am aware that there are no regulations or recommendations for pairs
better ball stroke play or stableford competitions. I would, however,
like to know what is the commonly accepted rules for handicaps in your
area. Is it full handicap or three quarters.

Denis
From: JohnH on 19 Mar 2010 16:30
3/4 handicap for pairs but all singles competitions are now of full
handicap

John

From: M L Wadsworth on 20 Mar 2010 04:31

"Denis Cary" <dc(a)densnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ho06tj$lb9$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>I am aware that there are no regulations or recommendations for pairs
>better ball stroke play or stableford competitions. I would, however, like
>to know what is the commonly accepted rules for handicaps in your area. Is
>it full handicap or three quarters.
>
> Denis


Denis,

Perhaps you haven't found them because you have been looking under the wrong
name.
The correct name for "pairs better ball stroke play" is "Four-ball Stroke
Play" .
It is covered by the Rules of Golf and in particular, Rule 31.

CONGU have directed that the handicap allowance for Four-ball Stroke Play
shall be that each partner receives 3/4 of his full handicap (see CONGU
Unified Handicapping System (Appendix F).

Four-ball Stroke Play is not a format that can be a qualifying competition
(see section 17.2), which in my opinion, makes it even more iniquitous that
CONGU should be dictating to clubs what conditions it must set for its own
competitions.

Regards,
Malcolm


From: Denis Cary on 20 Mar 2010 07:33
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> "Denis Cary" <dc(a)densnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ho06tj$lb9$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>> I am aware that there are no regulations or recommendations for pairs
>> better ball stroke play or stableford competitions. I would, however, like
>> to know what is the commonly accepted rules for handicaps in your area. Is
>> it full handicap or three quarters.
>>
>> Denis
>
>
> Denis,
>
> Perhaps you haven't found them because you have been looking under the wrong
> name.
> The correct name for "pairs better ball stroke play" is "Four-ball Stroke
> Play" .
> It is covered by the Rules of Golf and in particular, Rule 31.
>
> CONGU have directed that the handicap allowance for Four-ball Stroke Play
> shall be that each partner receives 3/4 of his full handicap (see CONGU
> Unified Handicapping System (Appendix F).
>
> Four-ball Stroke Play is not a format that can be a qualifying competition
> (see section 17.2), which in my opinion, makes it even more iniquitous that
> CONGU should be dictating to clubs what conditions it must set for its own
> competitions.
>
> Regards,
> Malcolm
>
>

Thank you Malcolm for the pointer to Appendix F.

I deliberately use the word 'Pairs' rather than 'four ball' as the
latter is frequently confused with the format where four players form a
team with varying number (often two) of 'better balls' to count

Denis
From: Paul Schmitz-Josten on 20 Mar 2010 08:24
Denis Cary in <ho2boh$rm$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>:

>I deliberately use the word 'Pairs' rather than 'four ball' as the
>latter is frequently confused with the format where four players form a
> team with varying number (often two) of 'better balls' to count

For this I read "bestball of the foursome" - not an official golf game but
good fun!

"Four ball" and "foursome" are games with two people forming a team
(usually two teams in a group - thus the name).
In a four ball, each player of a team will play and hole out a ball, with
various methods of counting, the easiest being "best ball", i.e. only the
better (gross or net) score of the two will count.
In a foursome, each team will hole out only one ball, playing this ball
alternatively to the hole. The "plain" version is to let them alternate on
the tees, alas there are at least two other versions which allow both to
tee off: "greensome" and "Rye foursome" (or Chapman foursome).

Both games ("plain versions") are covered by the rules, and the respective
match play versions are part of the Ryder Cup competitions. (see some
explanations in
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/find_out/guides/sport/the_ryder_cup/newsid_3640000/3640606.stm>)

Ciao,

Paul
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