From: RockPyle on
Intersting article about a new putting stat that has been developed to
try and give a better look at PGA putting and try to separate it from
iron play quality or other non-putting factors that can influence
Putts/GIR or total putts.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703791704575114071142473884.html?mod=djemMTIPOFF_h

They look at an expected number of putts based on the initial putt
length and create a "putts gained" metric. It sounds very similar to
what Dave Lee has posted about his putting tracking methodology, and
glancing through the archives, Brent Hutto talked about it as well.

Rock
From: dugjustdug on
On Mar 12, 5:37 am, RockPyle <rpyle_1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Intersting article about a new putting stat that has been developed to
> try and give a better look at PGA putting and try to separate it from
> iron play quality or other non-putting factors that can influence
> Putts/GIR or total putts.
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870379170457511407114247...
>
> They look at an expected number of putts based on the initial putt
> length and create a "putts gained" metric.  It sounds very similar to
> what Dave Lee has posted about his putting tracking methodology, and
> glancing through the archives, Brent Hutto talked about it as well.
>
> Rock

Oh, sure. Honkin' for the ol' Alma Mater again I see...

(PS: Great Article, Rock. The new metric makes a bunch of sense -
especially since the benchmark can evolve as the statistics dictate.)
From: Dave Lee on


"RockPyle" <rpyle_1999(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5b29dbc5-b604-400f-ad5d-3cd6b51dea81(a)g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> Intersting article about a new putting stat that has been developed to
> try and give a better look at PGA putting and try to separate it from
> iron play quality or other non-putting factors that can influence
> Putts/GIR or total putts.
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703791704575114071142473884.html?mod=djemMTIPOFF_h
>
> They look at an expected number of putts based on the initial putt
> length and create a "putts gained" metric. It sounds very similar to
> what Dave Lee has posted about his putting tracking methodology, and
> glancing through the archives, Brent Hutto talked about it as well.
>
> Rock

It does sound exactly like the methodology that I use. The opening sentence
in the article is:

Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, working with the
PGA Tour, have come up with a way to solve one of golf's biggest conundrums:
how to determine who are the truly great putters in the game.

I am going to sue them unless they retract this sentence and re-issue it as:

Some otherwise worthless North Carolina hacker has come up with a way to
solve one of golf's biggest conundrums: how to determine who are the truly
great putters in the game.

dave

ps. Thanks for the link.

From: Dave Lee on
I did say "exactly" which is not exactly true. I record my putting data to
the nearest foot - not inch.

dave

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>
> "RockPyle" <rpyle_1999(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5b29dbc5-b604-400f-ad5d-3cd6b51dea81(a)g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>> Intersting article about a new putting stat that has been developed to
>> try and give a better look at PGA putting and try to separate it from
>> iron play quality or other non-putting factors that can influence
>> Putts/GIR or total putts.
>>
>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703791704575114071142473884.html?mod=djemMTIPOFF_h
>>
>> They look at an expected number of putts based on the initial putt
>> length and create a "putts gained" metric. It sounds very similar to
>> what Dave Lee has posted about his putting tracking methodology, and
>> glancing through the archives, Brent Hutto talked about it as well.
>>
>> Rock
>
> It does sound exactly like the methodology that I use. The opening
> sentence in the article is:
>
> Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, working with the
> PGA Tour, have come up with a way to solve one of golf's biggest
> conundrums: how to determine who are the truly great putters in the game.
>
> I am going to sue them unless they retract this sentence and re-issue it
> as:
>
> Some otherwise worthless North Carolina hacker has come up with a way to
> solve one of golf's biggest conundrums: how to determine who are the truly
> great putters in the game.
>
> dave
>
> ps. Thanks for the link.

From: RockPyle on
On Mar 12, 3:28 pm, "Dave Lee" <DaveLe...(a)ix.netcom.RemovE.com> wrote:
> I did say "exactly" which is not exactly true. I record my putting data to
> the nearest foot - not inch.
>
> dave
>
> "Dave Lee" <DaveLe...(a)ix.netcom.RemovE.com> wrote in message
>
> news:TfednZefa77OPgfWnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "RockPyle" <rpyle_1...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:5b29dbc5-b604-400f-ad5d-3cd6b51dea81(a)g10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com....
> >> Intersting article about a new putting stat that has been developed to
> >> try and give a better look at PGA putting and try to separate it from
> >> iron play quality or other non-putting factors that can influence
> >> Putts/GIR or total putts.
>
> >>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870379170457511407114247....
>
> >> They look at an expected number of putts based on the initial putt
> >> length and create a "putts gained" metric.  It sounds very similar to
> >> what Dave Lee has posted about his putting tracking methodology, and
> >> glancing through the archives, Brent Hutto talked about it as well.
>
> >> Rock
>
> > It does sound exactly like the methodology that I use. The opening
> > sentence in the article is:
>
> > Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, working with the
> > PGA Tour, have come up with a way to solve one of golf's biggest
> > conundrums: how to determine who are the truly great putters in the game.
>
> > I am going to sue them unless they retract this sentence and re-issue it
> > as:
>
> > Some otherwise worthless North Carolina hacker has come up with a way to
> > solve one of golf's biggest conundrums: how to determine who are the truly
> > great putters in the game.
>
> > dave
>
> > ps. Thanks for the link.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm sure that in the past couple of hours you have gone back and added
the additional by-the-inch requirement to your data gathering
sattelite system!

Rock