From: ""R&B"" on
Alright I stand corrected.

I sure thought MAERST didn't burst on the scene until after I'd returned to
metro Atlanta from Chattanowhere.

Randy

"Steve S" <none(a)fughettaboutit.com> wrote in message
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> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness(a)all.com> wrote in message
> news:LeCdnXSGHZ9IkJLYnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
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>> Eric did not start posting until much later than '98.
>>
>> It was around 2001.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
> Are you suggesting there was more than one Maerst and Eric took the name
> after 2001?
>
> You responded to Maerst in Dec1998:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.golf/browse_frm/thread/a1fa0437fcaf4d54/d2014afa78364c0b?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#d2014afa78364c0b
>
> It is distinctly Hammerhead. The lower case I, the disjointed writing.
>
> He also posted as Maerst in 1999 to a nursing newsgroup:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.nursing/browse_frm/thread/4a70ebcc4161d6ad/b9431eb655968459?lnk=st&q=maerst&rnum=1&hl=en#b9431eb655968459
>
> There are posts around from 2000 and 2001 also.
>


From: Dene on

"R&B" wrote:

>
> No, here is where you are simply wrong.
>
> He has never apologized and shown a hint of remorse for the severity of his
> attacks. He raised issues that had never been an issue and attempted to
> humiliate me by throwing every possible thing concerning my personal life --
> much of which he simply made up out of thin air -- and never expressed even
> a hint of regret for doing so.
>
> So, Dene, this is where you lose me. There was never a sincere apology and
> an expression of remorse for turning a Usenet debate into a all-out personal
> assult for no reason whatsoever.
>
> And frankly, if the apology finally came now (which I'm not holding my
> breath for), it would be about 2 1/2 years too late.
>
> Oh, and unbeknownst to you, there was a little telephone call exchange after
> the Usenet postings that nobody here will ever know the full details of.
> Suffice it to say that the same tone expressed in those Usenet postings were
> repeated to me over the phone.
>
> So, no -- you're simply misinformed. There was no apology. There never has
> been.

I could indeed be misinformed. If Eric didn't own up, then you have
every reason to hold this on him. At least....that's how I see it.
I've applied the same standard with you, for all the unprovoked attacks
you've laid on me.

> Show me where he's ever owned up to what he did. I don't accept
that. I've
> never once seen him admit -- with sufficient details concerning our exchange
> to indicate he's apologizing for THIS -- that he was blatantly over the top,
> mean-spirited and unecessarily personal in his reaction to a debate that had
> nothing whatsoever to do with most of the issues he brought up to attack me
> with.
>
> Have you ever actually READ what he said, for Chrissake, Dene? How can you
> possible defend it?

Of course I read it. Again, as I stated before, I criticized Eric for
it.

> > As for his and mine relationship, Eric and I had a rough beginning, but
> > now we have a solid friendship. There may come a time when he blasts
> > me. If so, then I will have the same decision you have about him,
> > assuming he and I own up for our role in the conflict. Until then, I
> > trust him, like him, and will continue to until he gives me "7 times
> > 77" reasons not to. If that makes me a hypocrite in your eyes, so be
> > it.
>
>
> I don't consider you that much of a hypocrite. I just think you have very
> low standards.

My standards for friendship would be lower if we were friends.

> >> Didn't you once tell me privately that you were in the ministry?
> >
> > In my 20's, I worked with kids in a church/para-church setting. And
> > the reason you bring up a private discussion is......???
>
>
> Not all that private, actually. You brought it up on the c-list before your
> banishment. So I guess I'm as guilty of taking a c-list conversation to RSG
> as you have been on numerous occasions. Sue me.

Misinformed are you. I told Annika privately what Strauss said. He
brought it out into the open. Name these other times, showboat.

> Just wanted it out in the open.

For what purpose? I'm not ashamed of the impact the program had on
young people. We did a lot of wonderful things. I was broke as can
be....but fulfilled.

-Greg

From: marti285 on
In article <svGdnfnoFrUxapPYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>,
"\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusiness(a)all.com> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> He lives in Mississippi.
>
> Do you really need to know much more?
>
> Randy

Posting something like this belittles you, not your target.

B. Martin
From: Gordo on

Dene wrote:
> "R&B" wrote:

>
> > >> Didn't you once tell me privately that you were in the ministry?
> > >
> > > In my 20's, I worked with kids in a church/para-church setting. And
> > > the reason you bring up a private discussion is......???
> >
> >
> > Not all that private, actually. You brought it up on the c-list before your
> > banishment. So I guess I'm as guilty of taking a c-list conversation to RSG
> > as you have been on numerous occasions. Sue me.
>
> Misinformed are you. I told Annika privately what Strauss said. He
> brought it out into the open. Name these other times, showboat.
>
> > Just wanted it out in the open.
>
> For what purpose? I'm not ashamed of the impact the program had on
> young people. We did a lot of wonderful things. I was broke as can
> be....but fulfilled.
>
> -Greg

I'm still totally trying to figure out what this had to do with this
thread. Unbelievable the things that are coming up. For the record, I
once also worked with youth in a Church that I was attending. Most
fulfilling time of my life. There, I said it!

From: ""R&B"" on
"Dene" <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote
>
>> Just wanted it out in the open.
>
> For what purpose? I'm not ashamed of the impact the program had on
> young people.


You have no reason to be ashamed of its affect on young people.

I'm just wondering how proud they are of the lasting effect (or lack
thereof) it had on you.

Randy