From: William Clark on
In article <alangbaker-B333A5.12151204082010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote:

> In article
> <clark-F0673C.14280304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
> William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
> > In article <alangbaker-4D7539.10240504082010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> > Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <2010080413174055869-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>,
> > > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2010-08-04 02:10:57 -0400, dene said:
> > > >
> > > > > "Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:qn26o.35303$Bh2.27325(a)newsfe04.iad...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:8brjojFnl6U1(a)mid.individual.net...
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:fsng56ds78hrm3q67sc8oqnvrol685lj15(a)4ax.com...
> > > > >>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:52:29 -0400, William Clark
> > > > >>>> <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> You can't tether the iPhone to a computer and use it as a modem.
> > > > >>>>> That
> > > > > is
> > > > >>>>> one feature that AT&T blocked, and which draws the loudest
> > > > >>>>> complaints.
> > > > > I
> > > > >>>>> believe, but I'm not sure, that iPhones that have been jailbroken
> > > > >>>>> can
> > > > >>>>> tether. Apple continues to be pressed on tethering, but I think
> > > > >>>>> that
> > > > >>>>> AT&T is so wedded to selling users a USB modem data plan, thay
> > > > >>>>> simply
> > > > >>>>> won't budge.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> AT&T has just offered tethering for an additional $20 monthly if
> > > > >>>> you
> > > > >>>> use their DataPro plan.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I'm with Randy though...if I need to go to the Internet I just use
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>> iPhone. Plus, I have never once texted anyone, so no way I
> > > > >>>> upgrade
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>> any data plan.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> BK
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I looked into it and may consider it. One neat feature is that if
> > > > >>> you
> > > > >>> elect
> > > > >>> the tethering feature, you add 2 gigs to the existing data plan.
> > > > >>> That's
> > > > > a
> > > > >>> winner for my wife, who has the limited plan. Another feature is
> > > > >>> that
> > > > >>> there
> > > > >>> is no wire. The phone acts like a wireless wifi router. In fact,
> > > > >>> you
> > > > > can
> > > > >>> connect two laptops to one phone. Pretty cool, when you consider
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>> alternative of patiently waiting for the wife to get off the
> > > > >>> laptop.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -Greg
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> laptops are cheap -- we have 2 in the living room!
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah....got a couple three myself. The problem is when we're in our
> > > > > RV
> > > > > or
> > > > > on a boat. Being able to share one connection at one time would be
> > > > > nice.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Windows laptops are cheap. Mac laptops? Not so much. Not the
> > > > "MacBook Pro" laptops anyway (which are the only ones I'd have -- I
> > > > have a 17" and love it).
> > > >
> > > > Since making the switch to Mac nearly 3 years ago (I now have the one
> > > > laptop and two iMacs, and am about to get another), I've only regretted
> > > > not making the switch much, much sooner.
> > > >
> > > > Sadly, I have to keep one Windows machine (to run Quick Books for my
> > > > company, since Intuit's Mac version of Quick Books is HORRIBLE). I
> > > > bought a new Windows 7 machine this past Spring and the damn thing
> > > > crashed three times the first week. I *hate* Windows, and I just laugh
> > > > every time I see one of those idiotic Windows 7 commercials on TV where
> > > > people say, "Windows 7 was my idea." Was it your idea for the
> > > > operating system to keep crashing, too?
> > >
> > > Randy: you can get a number of different virtualization products
> > > (Parallels, VMware Fusion, etc.) that allow you to run Windows at the
> > > same time as Mac OS X on your Mac. It's a perfect solution to the "I
> > > have one program that I have to use Windows for" issue.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Now we hear that Windows 8 is already on the way. Maybe the next round
> > > > of TV spots will feature one of those "regular people" saying, "Windows
> > > > 7 was my idea," and then Bill Gates emerges from behind the curtain to
> > > > tell them, "Well, then you're fired!"
> > >
> > > :-)
> >
> > Yes, just run Parallels or Boot Camp, and you can run Windows as well
> > and fast as on a PC, and you have the blissful relief of being able to
> > go back to OS X for sanity. It is amazing now how the Macs are making
> > inroads into the science and engineering student market, where so many
> > essential apps used to be PC only. The kids love them, and they are so
> > much less demanding of technician time than PCs.
>
> Sadly...
>
> ...because I'm a Mac tech!
>
> :-)

Now you know how the Maytag repair man feels :-)
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<wclark2-49812C.19442204082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:

> > > Yes, just run Parallels or Boot Camp, and you can run Windows as well
> > > and fast as on a PC, and you have the blissful relief of being able to
> > > go back to OS X for sanity. It is amazing now how the Macs are making
> > > inroads into the science and engineering student market, where so many
> > > essential apps used to be PC only. The kids love them, and they are so
> > > much less demanding of technician time than PCs.
> >
> > Sadly...
> >
> > ...because I'm a Mac tech!
> >
> > :-)
>
> Now you know how the Maytag repair man feels :-)

A little too much, yes. :-(

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: William Clark on
In article <8bubbkF1hnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> news:2010080417332279531-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> > On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said:
>
> > Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on my
> Macs.
> >
> > I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of my
> > Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen.
>
> Amen....cutie.
>
> So...my kid is about ready to go to college and he has Mac on the brain.
> $1200 for a 13 in. Mac Book when he could pay half that much for a souped up
> Toshiba with a larger screen.
>
> His money....but I don't understand the reasoning.
>
> -Greg

Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is
currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in,
and this is also part of the current deal.

That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus
has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given
that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming
to set up a usable system.

Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<wclark2-844601.19523304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:

> In article <8bubbkF1hnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>
> > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> > news:2010080417332279531-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> > > On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said:
> >
> > > Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on my
> > Macs.
> > >
> > > I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of my
> > > Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen.
> >
> > Amen....cutie.
> >
> > So...my kid is about ready to go to college and he has Mac on the brain.
> > $1200 for a 13 in. Mac Book when he could pay half that much for a souped up
> > Toshiba with a larger screen.
> >
> > His money....but I don't understand the reasoning.
> >
> > -Greg
>
> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is
> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in,
> and this is also part of the current deal.
>
> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus
> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given
> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming
> to set up a usable system.
>
> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)

And higher resale values.

:-)

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-DB8B65.16350104082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <8bubjkF32bU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>
> > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> > news:2010080413102254129-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> > > On 2010-08-03 18:26:45 -0400, dene said:
> >
> > > If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's this:
> > >
> > > You can stay "old skool" if you wanna...but if you don't embrace
> > > emerging technology, you will render yourself irrelevent to the modern
> > > world.
> > >
> > > I see it all the time in my business. Guys I know who are my age who
> > > have resisted the move away from tape to digital audio were swept away
> > > and are no longer working. I'm *so* glad I've always been something
of
> > > a gadget freak and have embraced all-things-computer.
> > >
> > > Randy
> >
> > I'm on the 12th hole, 145 yd. par 3. My 4 hdcp. golfing buddy hits a
nice 8
> > iron shot for his 2nd lifetime hole in one.
> >
> > I missed the whole thing. Why?
> > I was messing with my new I-Phone and had my back turned to him.
> >
> > There is a lesson here.....
>
> You don't know what to do and when to do it?

Sorta.

Distracted drivers.
Distracted duffers.

-Greg


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