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From: William Clark on 4 Aug 2010 19:44 In article <alangbaker-B333A5.12151204082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <clark-F0673C.14280304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, > William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > > > In article <alangbaker-4D7539.10240504082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > In article <2010080413174055869-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, > > > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 2010-08-04 02:10:57 -0400, dene said: > > > > > > > > > "Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net> wrote in message > > > > > news:qn26o.35303$Bh2.27325(a)newsfe04.iad... > > > > >> > > > > >> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message > > > > >> news:8brjojFnl6U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > >>> > > > > >>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > > > >>> news:fsng56ds78hrm3q67sc8oqnvrol685lj15(a)4ax.com... > > > > >>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:52:29 -0400, William Clark > > > > >>>> <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> You can't tether the iPhone to a computer and use it as a modem. > > > > >>>>> That > > > > > is > > > > >>>>> one feature that AT&T blocked, and which draws the loudest > > > > >>>>> complaints. > > > > > I > > > > >>>>> believe, but I'm not sure, that iPhones that have been jailbroken > > > > >>>>> can > > > > >>>>> tether. Apple continues to be pressed on tethering, but I think > > > > >>>>> that > > > > >>>>> AT&T is so wedded to selling users a USB modem data plan, thay > > > > >>>>> simply > > > > >>>>> won't budge. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> AT&T has just offered tethering for an additional $20 monthly if > > > > >>>> you > > > > >>>> use their DataPro plan. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I'm with Randy though...if I need to go to the Internet I just use > > > > >>>> the > > > > >>>> iPhone. Plus, I have never once texted anyone, so no way I > > > > >>>> upgrade > > > > >>>> to > > > > >>>> any data plan. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> BK > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I looked into it and may consider it. One neat feature is that if > > > > >>> you > > > > >>> elect > > > > >>> the tethering feature, you add 2 gigs to the existing data plan. > > > > >>> That's > > > > > a > > > > >>> winner for my wife, who has the limited plan. Another feature is > > > > >>> that > > > > >>> there > > > > >>> is no wire. The phone acts like a wireless wifi router. In fact, > > > > >>> you > > > > > can > > > > >>> connect two laptops to one phone. Pretty cool, when you consider > > > > >>> the > > > > >>> alternative of patiently waiting for the wife to get off the > > > > >>> laptop. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -Greg > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> laptops are cheap -- we have 2 in the living room! > > > > > > > > > > Yeah....got a couple three myself. The problem is when we're in our > > > > > RV > > > > > or > > > > > on a boat. Being able to share one connection at one time would be > > > > > nice. > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows laptops are cheap. Mac laptops? Not so much. Not the > > > > "MacBook Pro" laptops anyway (which are the only ones I'd have -- I > > > > have a 17" and love it). > > > > > > > > Since making the switch to Mac nearly 3 years ago (I now have the one > > > > laptop and two iMacs, and am about to get another), I've only regretted > > > > not making the switch much, much sooner. > > > > > > > > Sadly, I have to keep one Windows machine (to run Quick Books for my > > > > company, since Intuit's Mac version of Quick Books is HORRIBLE). I > > > > bought a new Windows 7 machine this past Spring and the damn thing > > > > crashed three times the first week. I *hate* Windows, and I just laugh > > > > every time I see one of those idiotic Windows 7 commercials on TV where > > > > people say, "Windows 7 was my idea." Was it your idea for the > > > > operating system to keep crashing, too? > > > > > > Randy: you can get a number of different virtualization products > > > (Parallels, VMware Fusion, etc.) that allow you to run Windows at the > > > same time as Mac OS X on your Mac. It's a perfect solution to the "I > > > have one program that I have to use Windows for" issue. > > > > > > > > > > > Now we hear that Windows 8 is already on the way. Maybe the next round > > > > of TV spots will feature one of those "regular people" saying, "Windows > > > > 7 was my idea," and then Bill Gates emerges from behind the curtain to > > > > tell them, "Well, then you're fired!" > > > > > > :-) > > > > Yes, just run Parallels or Boot Camp, and you can run Windows as well > > and fast as on a PC, and you have the blissful relief of being able to > > go back to OS X for sanity. It is amazing now how the Macs are making > > inroads into the science and engineering student market, where so many > > essential apps used to be PC only. The kids love them, and they are so > > much less demanding of technician time than PCs. > > Sadly... > > ...because I'm a Mac tech! > > :-) Now you know how the Maytag repair man feels :-)
From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 19:49 In article <wclark2-49812C.19442204082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > Yes, just run Parallels or Boot Camp, and you can run Windows as well > > > and fast as on a PC, and you have the blissful relief of being able to > > > go back to OS X for sanity. It is amazing now how the Macs are making > > > inroads into the science and engineering student market, where so many > > > essential apps used to be PC only. The kids love them, and they are so > > > much less demanding of technician time than PCs. > > > > Sadly... > > > > ...because I'm a Mac tech! > > > > :-) > > Now you know how the Maytag repair man feels :-) A little too much, yes. :-( -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: William Clark on 4 Aug 2010 19:52 In article <8bubbkF1hnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message > news:2010080417332279531-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... > > On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said: > > > Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on my > Macs. > > > > I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of my > > Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen. > > Amen....cutie. > > So...my kid is about ready to go to college and he has Mac on the brain. > $1200 for a 13 in. Mac Book when he could pay half that much for a souped up > Toshiba with a larger screen. > > His money....but I don't understand the reasoning. > > -Greg Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in, and this is also part of the current deal. That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming to set up a usable system. Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 20:21 In article <wclark2-844601.19523304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article <8bubbkF1hnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message > > news:2010080417332279531-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... > > > On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said: > > > > > Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on my > > Macs. > > > > > > I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of my > > > Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen. > > > > Amen....cutie. > > > > So...my kid is about ready to go to college and he has Mac on the brain. > > $1200 for a 13 in. Mac Book when he could pay half that much for a souped up > > Toshiba with a larger screen. > > > > His money....but I don't understand the reasoning. > > > > -Greg > > Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is > currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the > student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in, > and this is also part of the current deal. > > That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus > has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given > that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming > to set up a usable system. > > Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-) And higher resale values. :-) -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on 4 Aug 2010 20:27
"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-DB8B65.16350104082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <8bubjkF32bU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message > > news:2010080413102254129-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... > > > On 2010-08-03 18:26:45 -0400, dene said: > > > > > If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's this: > > > > > > You can stay "old skool" if you wanna...but if you don't embrace > > > emerging technology, you will render yourself irrelevent to the modern > > > world. > > > > > > I see it all the time in my business. Guys I know who are my age who > > > have resisted the move away from tape to digital audio were swept away > > > and are no longer working. I'm *so* glad I've always been something of > > > a gadget freak and have embraced all-things-computer. > > > > > > Randy > > > > I'm on the 12th hole, 145 yd. par 3. My 4 hdcp. golfing buddy hits a nice 8 > > iron shot for his 2nd lifetime hole in one. > > > > I missed the whole thing. Why? > > I was messing with my new I-Phone and had my back turned to him. > > > > There is a lesson here..... > > You don't know what to do and when to do it? Sorta. Distracted drivers. Distracted duffers. -Greg |