From: Lloyd Parsons on
In article <alangbaker-6521B9.17213504082010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote:

> In article
> <wclark2-844601.19523304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
> William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <8bubbkF1hnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2010080417332279531-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> > > > On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said:
> > >
> > > > Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on my
> > > Macs.
> > > >
> > > > I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of my
> > > > Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen.
> > >
> > > Amen....cutie.
> > >
> > > So...my kid is about ready to go to college and he has Mac on the brain.
> > > $1200 for a 13 in. Mac Book when he could pay half that much for a souped
> > > up
> > > Toshiba with a larger screen.
> > >
> > > His money....but I don't understand the reasoning.
> > >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is
> > currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
> > student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in,
> > and this is also part of the current deal.
> >
> > That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus
> > has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given
> > that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming
> > to set up a usable system.
> >
> > Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
>
> And higher resale values.
>
> :-)

and no malware to screw things up!

--
Lloyd


From: Lloyd Parsons on
In article <kh4k56thbo0o6uegb12r7omsbo5r23164i(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> > -Greg
> >>
> >> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is
> >> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
> >> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in,
> >> and this is also part of the current deal.
> >>
> >> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus
> >> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given
> >> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming
> >> to set up a usable system.
> >>
> >> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
> >
> >And higher resale values.
>
>
> Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-)
>
> I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only
> Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I
> bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only
> one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other
> reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the
> FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I
> needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen.
>
> The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with
> Vista.
>
> IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants
> about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes.
>
> BK

You are certainly welcome to your beliefs.

Every Mac I've sold used went for 50-60% of new price or better.

--
Lloyd


From: bknight on
>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> >
>> >> > -Greg
>> >>
>> >> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is
>> >> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
>> >> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in,
>> >> and this is also part of the current deal.
>> >>
>> >> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus
>> >> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given
>> >> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming
>> >> to set up a usable system.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
>> >
>> >And higher resale values.
>>
>>
>> Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-)
>>
>> I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only
>> Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I
>> bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only
>> one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other
>> reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the
>> FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I
>> needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen.
>>
>> The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with
>> Vista.
>>
>> IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants
>> about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes.
>>
>> BK
>
>You are certainly welcome to your beliefs.

Thanks.
>
>Every Mac I've sold used went for 50-60% of new price or better.

I never had to sell one of my PCs. If Macs are the ultimate computer,
why would anyone ever sell theirs?

BK
From: Alan Baker on
In article <kh4k56thbo0o6uegb12r7omsbo5r23164i(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> > -Greg
> >>
> >> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is
> >> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
> >> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in,
> >> and this is also part of the current deal.
> >>
> >> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus
> >> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given
> >> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming
> >> to set up a usable system.
> >>
> >> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
> >
> >And higher resale values.
>
>
> Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-)
>
> I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only
> Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I
> bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only
> one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other
> reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the
> FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I
> needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen.
>
> The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with
> Vista.
>
> IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants
> about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes.
>
> BK

What can I tell you, BK. What I hear over and over from Windows users
is:

Before: "I don't see what all the fuss can be about"

After: "Oh my god, I can't believe it is this much better".

Honestly, I've seen this many times.

Take this guy:

"On June 20th, I declared that I was going to try A Month of Mac. I
took my Macbook Pro (an older model from about 18 months ago) up to
Alaska, left my Lenovo x300 in Boulder, and went native Mac.

I'm typing this on my brand new spiffy MacBook Pro 2.66 GHz Intel Core
i7 with 8GB RAM, with a 500GB solid state hard drive. I can't figure
out why I've been so stubborn about really switching to the Mac. This
is a beautiful computer."

<http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2010/08/the-mac-won-me-over.html>

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on
In article <kt9k56t59ok4u5q34eheuq3m5be38pgg49(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

> >> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Greg
> >> >>
> >> >> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is
> >> >> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
> >> >> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in,
> >> >> and this is also part of the current deal.
> >> >>
> >> >> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the
> >> >> campus
> >> >> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service.
> >> >> Given
> >> >> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and
> >> >> diming
> >> >> to set up a usable system.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
> >> >
> >> >And higher resale values.
> >>
> >>
> >> Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-)
> >>
> >> I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only
> >> Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I
> >> bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only
> >> one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other
> >> reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the
> >> FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I
> >> needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen.
> >>
> >> The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with
> >> Vista.
> >>
> >> IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants
> >> about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes.
> >>
> >> BK
> >
> >You are certainly welcome to your beliefs.
>
> Thanks.
> >
> >Every Mac I've sold used went for 50-60% of new price or better.
>
> I never had to sell one of my PCs. If Macs are the ultimate computer,
> why would anyone ever sell theirs?
>
> BK

They want a newer Mac.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
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