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From: MNMikeW on 5 Aug 2010 10:26 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4c59f952$0$4966$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:55:16 -0400, BAR wrote: >> In article <clark-F0673C.14280304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- >> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... >>> >>> Yes, just run Parallels or Boot Camp, and you can run Windows as well >>> and fast as on a PC, and you have the blissful relief of being able >>> to go back to OS X for sanity. It is amazing now how the Macs are >>> making inroads into the science and engineering student market, where >>> so many essential apps used to be PC only. The kids love them, and >>> they are so much less demanding of technician time than PCs. >> >> Get VMWare and run everything. > > VMWare's market is disappearing thanks to KVM and various other > less expensive or free virtualization solutions. Perhaps in the desktop market. ESX is the only way to really run enterprise servers.
From: MNMikeW on 5 Aug 2010 10:33 <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message news:kh4k56thbo0o6uegb12r7omsbo5r23164i(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> > wrote: > >>> > >>> > -Greg >>> >>> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is >>> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the >>> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in, >>> and this is also part of the current deal. >>> >>> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus >>> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given >>> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming >>> to set up a usable system. >>> >>> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-) >> >>And higher resale values. > > > Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-) > > I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only > Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I > bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only > one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other > reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the > FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I > needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen. > > The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with > Vista. > > IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants > about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes. > > BK Well said Bobby. Been working on PC's since their inception. Rarely have any issues.
From: MNMikeW on 5 Aug 2010 10:39 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-5D344A.21043904082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <8bubjkF32bU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message >> news:2010080413102254129-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... >> > On 2010-08-03 18:26:45 -0400, dene said: >> >> > If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's this: >> > >> > You can stay "old skool" if you wanna...but if you don't embrace >> > emerging technology, you will render yourself irrelevent to the modern >> > world. >> > >> > I see it all the time in my business. Guys I know who are my age who >> > have resisted the move away from tape to digital audio were swept away >> > and are no longer working. I'm *so* glad I've always been something of >> > a gadget freak and have embraced all-things-computer. >> > >> > Randy >> >> I'm on the 12th hole, 145 yd. par 3. My 4 hdcp. golfing buddy hits a >> nice 8 >> iron shot for his 2nd lifetime hole in one. >> >> I missed the whole thing. Why? >> I was messing with my new I-Phone and had my back turned to him. >> >> There is a lesson here..... >> >> -Greg > > Yes, don't take bloody cell phones onto the golf course. Aaaargh! Just how are you going to post at the turn then? ;-)
From: William Clark on 5 Aug 2010 11:00 In article <8c00d1F3r9U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > news:kh4k56thbo0o6uegb12r7omsbo5r23164i(a)4ax.com... > > On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > >>> > -Greg > >>> > >>> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is > >>> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the > >>> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in, > >>> and this is also part of the current deal. > >>> > >>> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus > >>> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given > >>> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming > >>> to set up a usable system. > >>> > >>> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-) > >> > >>And higher resale values. > > > > > > Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-) > > > > I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only > > Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I > > bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only > > one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other > > reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the > > FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I > > needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen. > > > > The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with > > Vista. > > > > IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants > > about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes. > > > > BK > > Well said Bobby. Been working on PC's since their inception. Rarely have any > issues. Me, too, but some of us move forward.
From: R&B on 5 Aug 2010 11:08
On 2010-08-04 19:31:37 -0400, dene said: > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message > news:2010080417332279531-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... >> On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said: > >> Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on my > Macs. >> >> I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of my >> Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen. > > Amen....cutie. > > So...my kid is about ready to go to college and he has Mac on the brain. > $1200 for a 13 in. Mac Book when he could pay half that much for a souped up > Toshiba with a larger screen. > > His money....but I don't understand the reasoning. > > -Greg I didn't understand it either. For the longest time, I resisted switching to Mac. My reasoning? It's a PC world. I always thought Mac-heads were just elitists. Then I made the switch. Now I get it. Macs just work. No blue screens of death. WIth Windows, I could expect the machine to crash at least once a week. I've experienced a system hang maybe twice in three years since I started using Mac. But most of all, every Windoze computer I ever had required Norton Anti-Virus or some similar anti-virus software. Over time, AV software slows everything down to a crawl. Now, with my Mac, I click an app and it opens...fast. No scanning, no waiting. When I shut down the computer, it doesn't take three minutes to scan everything, it just shuts down. Since switching to Mac, software that I ran on Windows works faster, better, is far more responsive. What can I say? It just works better. Lots better. So much better that I wouldn't think of switching back. It may be one of those things that you just have to take the plunge before you'll truly understand why Mac people are so adament about never wanting to use a Windows machine. (Nearly all of them started with Windows, so it's not like they don't have a frame of reference.) There was one Windows-only app I used for my everyday tasks (recording and editing audio waveforms for my voiceover work) that I really missed -- Sony Sound Forge. There are dozens of waveform editors for the Mac, but none quite worked the way I wanted, the way I was used to working with Sound Forge. But I found one that had a similar work flow, but seemed to be written more for the hobbyist/podcaster than the professional. So I wrote the developer and told him that he wasn't that far away from having a pro app that could be embraced by the audio professional if he'd consider a few tweaks. I sent him a list of about five changes I'd love to see him make. The next day he sent me a link to a beta version with all my suggestions incorporated. Wow. Next day I sent him five more. He followed up with another link to an updated beta. We went back and forth, and over a period of a few weeks, I gave him nearly two dozen changes that he could made that would make his software more appealing to the professional. He incorporated every single one of them. And today, because I, and one of my friends in Hollywood have spread the gospel, his software is now being used by numerous fim makers and television producers in Hollywood, including Entertainment Tonight, who uses it exclusively in their remote kit. (His software is called Twisted Wave -- www.twistedwave.com -- not a paid plug, I just endorse and use it.) I never found that kind of responsiveness to suggestions from any app on the Windows platform. Quite to the contrary. Randy |