From: bknight on 5 Aug 2010 11:44
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:28:18 -0400, "R&B"
>On 2010-08-04 21:39:02 -0400, bknight(a)conramp.net said:
>PCs are what they are. Dells are fine machines. But it's the
>operating system, stupid. Windows sucks. It is notorious for locking
>up, blue screeing, giving driver conflicts, and slowing down due to the
>weight of all the anti-virus stuff you MUST run.
I have only had one problem with a virus, ever, and none of the rest
of those you mention. I've also used every Windows OS since '95,
either on my personal machines or at work. 2000 was not my favorite,
but still none of the above problems.
>I bought a new Windows machine two years ago and installed NOTHING on
>it besides Anti Virus and Quick Books. And after two years of using
>the machine only to do billing on the 1st of the month and to process
>payments and expenses (I didn't use that computer for anything else),
>it had slowed to a crawl...until it finally crashed.
>Every Windows machine I've ever had has slowed down to a crawl after
>normal use within a year.
Ever stopped to think it may be you, and not Windows???
>Of course I'm doing more than just Office tasks. Video, audio, graphics.
>Macs are just made for that type of work. Windows just labors too much
>to get through that stuff.
OK, so you have specific needs. 99% of users don't.
>> The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with
>And Vista is just a joke. Even Microsoft admits that.
Its worked fine for me Randy, and please show a site where MS says
such a thing.
>The big question is, which Windows does Microsoft disown today?
>> IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants
>> about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes.
>Get a Mac and use it exclusively for six months. You'll see.
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Aug 2010 11:47
In article <2010080511425362098-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>,
"R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
> On 2010-08-05 09:48:02 -0400, bknight(a)conramp.net said:
> > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:33:49 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
> > <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote:
> >> In article <qsel561d33ji2ni7mg4gfpesa3n0i6fjvj(a)4ax.com>,
> >> bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >>> Do you compose music?
> >>> BK
> >> No, or at least not anything that is ever good! :)
> >> I mostly do some engraving to get the very small typefaced fakebook
> >> music over to something I can read. Scan in, blow up, modify a bit and
> >> then load into MusicReader so I can play it on my organ.
> >> I use Finale and Sibelius, mostly Finale these days. Totally amateur
> >> stuff, but I enjoy it.
> > That's what music, any music, is supposed to be for.
> >> I know you are a musician. So maybe you can explain loop-based music to
> >> me. I have GarageBand on my Mac that everyone says is wonderful, but it
> >> is all loop-based. And I just don't get it.
> > Looping is just sampling, and reconstructing those samples, to create
> > a repetition that can be electrically inserted into recorded music.
> > That's the extent of my knowledge about it.
> > BK
> Bobby is pretty might right on about this. I don't use Garage Band,
> but I have it, and have opened it and fiddled around with it.
> It's music software for people without musical ability (like me).
> In the hands of someone who actually knows how to play, it is a
> powerful tool (not quite like Pro Tools or Logic, but an excellent
> entry point...and is a helluva lot more powerful tool than most
> beginners will ever fully grasp).
> It's amazing...there's this guy named Alex Lindsay who appears on some
> Leo Laporte podcasts. Lindsay worked on special effects on one of the
> Star Wars movies. He pointed out recently that the new iPhones are
> more powerful than the computers he worked on to do the Star Wars
> special effects. So you can just imagine how much more horsepower is
> available to the musically-inclined using Garage Band than was
> available...even to...say...George Martin when he was producing The
> It's mind boggling.
> Of course technology can't quite replace TALENT. But in some cases, it
> can come pretty darn close. Just turn on the radio for all the proof
> you need.
Thanks to both of you for this info.
I'm not particularly good at playing the organ, but I play good enough
for me to enjoy it. I will admit to using the 'automatics' on mine
quite a bit though. They fit right in with the older music I prefer to
From: bknight on 5 Aug 2010 11:54
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:33:02 -0400, "R&B"
>That said, I know plenty of people still running Pro Tools or Avid on
>their old G4 Macs and are perfectly happy not to upgrade to the newest
>I don't know many running old PCs of the same era who aren't having
>trouble with them.
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Aug 2010 11:55
In article <2010080511152910191-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>,
"R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
> Because when Apple comes with new ones, you want a new one. Because
> it's even faster. Even cooler.
> And the best part is, you can sell your old one and get a sizeable
> portion of your original investment back.
> What's not to like about that equation?
My last Apple upgrade was to the 27" iMac. Speed wasn't a serious
consideration as the software I use most (beyond the usual 'net stuff)
doesn't really change with the miniscule speed bumps these days.
I wanted the screen real estate. It is really nice to work with music
scores on a huge screen that for some reason, doesn't seem to overwhelm
I also have an HP 20" Touchscreen that I use for my organ to present the
sheet music, and a Dell Hybrid that I use as an HTPC. Both of these
work fine, both are nearly worthless in the used marketplace though.
But each has slowdown issues as they are connected to the 'net, so
anti-virus is a must. Not so with the Mac.
BTW, if any of you have an HTPC and an iPhone/Touch/iPad, get Mobile
Mouse for it. Makes operating an HTPC more of a joy! Works with both
windows and osx.
From: R&B on 5 Aug 2010 13:08
On 2010-08-05 11:54:32 -0400, bknight(a)conramp.net said:
> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:33:02 -0400, "R&B"
> <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
>> That said, I know plenty of people still running Pro Tools or Avid on
>> their old G4 Macs and are perfectly happy not to upgrade to the newest
>> I don't know many running old PCs of the same era who aren't having
>> trouble with them.
> I'm one.
There are exceptions to every rule.