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From: R&B on 5 Aug 2010 13:10 On 2010-08-05 11:47:50 -0400, Lloyd Parsons said: > In article <2010080511425362098-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > >> On 2010-08-05 09:48:02 -0400, bknight(a)conramp.net said: >> >>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:33:49 -0500, Lloyd Parsons >>> <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <qsel561d33ji2ni7mg4gfpesa3n0i6fjvj(a)4ax.com>, >>>> bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >>> >>>>> Do you compose music? >>>>> >>>>> BK >>>> >>>> No, or at least not anything that is ever good! :) >>>> >>>> I mostly do some engraving to get the very small typefaced fakebook >>>> music over to something I can read. Scan in, blow up, modify a bit and >>>> then load into MusicReader so I can play it on my organ. >>>> >>>> I use Finale and Sibelius, mostly Finale these days. Totally amateur >>>> stuff, but I enjoy it. >>> >>> That's what music, any music, is supposed to be for. >>>> >>>> I know you are a musician. So maybe you can explain loop-based music to >>>> me. I have GarageBand on my Mac that everyone says is wonderful, but it >>>> is all loop-based. And I just don't get it. >>> >>> Looping is just sampling, and reconstructing those samples, to create >>> a repetition that can be electrically inserted into recorded music. >>> That's the extent of my knowledge about it. >>> >>> BK >> >> >> Bobby is pretty might right on about this. I don't use Garage Band, >> but I have it, and have opened it and fiddled around with it. >> >> It's music software for people without musical ability (like me). >> >> In the hands of someone who actually knows how to play, it is a >> powerful tool (not quite like Pro Tools or Logic, but an excellent >> entry point...and is a helluva lot more powerful tool than most >> beginners will ever fully grasp). >> >> It's amazing...there's this guy named Alex Lindsay who appears on some >> Leo Laporte podcasts. Lindsay worked on special effects on one of the >> Star Wars movies. He pointed out recently that the new iPhones are >> more powerful than the computers he worked on to do the Star Wars >> special effects. So you can just imagine how much more horsepower is >> available to the musically-inclined using Garage Band than was >> available...even to...say...George Martin when he was producing The >> Beatles. >> >> It's mind boggling. >> >> Of course technology can't quite replace TALENT. But in some cases, it >> can come pretty darn close. Just turn on the radio for all the proof >> you need. >> >> Randy > > Thanks to both of you for this info. > > I'm not particularly good at playing the organ, but I play good enough > for me to enjoy it. I will admit to using the 'automatics' on mine > quite a bit though. They fit right in with the older music I prefer to > play. Well, if you can play the organ, then all you need is a little $100 MIDI keyboard (which you can pick up at any Guitar Center), plug it into your Mac, and you can make music in GuitarBand. Randy
From: dene on 5 Aug 2010 13:19 "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message news:2010080511102928056-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... > On 2010-08-04 20:37:25 -0400, dene said: > Dene, > > I *guarantee* if you ever bought a MacBook Pro and used it exclusively > for six months, you'd realize that the $2200 you spent on the Mac is a > better value than the $600 you spent on the Toshiba door stop. > > I'm serious. > > I was right where you are four years ago. Then I took the plunge. Now > I have a completely different perspective. > > Randy I think your computer needs are far more complicated than mine. When something works, like old software, old OS, etc., I'm relunctant to update it. Therefore, it's fairly rare that I'm dealing with driver issues. I've also been fortunate to never have a virus.....probably because I don't visit obscure websites, especially peer to peer ones. My son's computer needs are probably greater than mine, so if he springs for the Mac, I'll be supportive. The scanner, ipod touch, laptop deal they have going for students seems like a pretty good value. I just hope he will not get caught up in the endless quest for the "latest and greatest." An aside. Tis my 3rd day with the IPhone 4 and I do like it, except for the touch keyboard. But I'm slowly adapting.... -Greg
From: dene on 5 Aug 2010 13:27 "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:8c00d1F3r9U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > news:kh4k56thbo0o6uegb12r7omsbo5r23164i(a)4ax.com... > > On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > >>> > -Greg > >>> > >>> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is > >>> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the > >>> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in, > >>> and this is also part of the current deal. > >>> > >>> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus > >>> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given > >>> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming > >>> to set up a usable system. > >>> > >>> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-) > >> > >>And higher resale values. > > > > > > Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-) > > > > I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only > > Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I > > bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only > > one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other > > reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the > > FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I > > needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen. > > > > The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with > > Vista. > > > > IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants > > about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes. > > > > BK > > Well said Bobby. Been working on PC's since their inception. Rarely have any > issues. Me too. My first one, with a dot matrix printer, and vga screen was a 286/10. Around 1990, I paid 3k for it. The only problem I've had is an HD crash (years ago) and Windows Millenium Edition. I think it was Randy who finally got through to me that it was a bonafide POS, hence the upgrade to Win. 2000, which I have to this day. -Greg
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Aug 2010 13:35 In article <2010080513100754558-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > On 2010-08-05 11:47:50 -0400, Lloyd Parsons said: > > > In article <2010080511425362098-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, > > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > > > >> On 2010-08-05 09:48:02 -0400, bknight(a)conramp.net said: > >> > >>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:33:49 -0500, Lloyd Parsons > >>> <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> In article <qsel561d33ji2ni7mg4gfpesa3n0i6fjvj(a)4ax.com>, > >>>> bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > >>> > >>>>> Do you compose music? > >>>>> > >>>>> BK > >>>> > >>>> No, or at least not anything that is ever good! :) > >>>> > >>>> I mostly do some engraving to get the very small typefaced fakebook > >>>> music over to something I can read. Scan in, blow up, modify a bit and > >>>> then load into MusicReader so I can play it on my organ. > >>>> > >>>> I use Finale and Sibelius, mostly Finale these days. Totally amateur > >>>> stuff, but I enjoy it. > >>> > >>> That's what music, any music, is supposed to be for. > >>>> > >>>> I know you are a musician. So maybe you can explain loop-based music to > >>>> me. I have GarageBand on my Mac that everyone says is wonderful, but it > >>>> is all loop-based. And I just don't get it. > >>> > >>> Looping is just sampling, and reconstructing those samples, to create > >>> a repetition that can be electrically inserted into recorded music. > >>> That's the extent of my knowledge about it. > >>> > >>> BK > >> > >> > >> Bobby is pretty might right on about this. I don't use Garage Band, > >> but I have it, and have opened it and fiddled around with it. > >> > >> It's music software for people without musical ability (like me). > >> > >> In the hands of someone who actually knows how to play, it is a > >> powerful tool (not quite like Pro Tools or Logic, but an excellent > >> entry point...and is a helluva lot more powerful tool than most > >> beginners will ever fully grasp). > >> > >> It's amazing...there's this guy named Alex Lindsay who appears on some > >> Leo Laporte podcasts. Lindsay worked on special effects on one of the > >> Star Wars movies. He pointed out recently that the new iPhones are > >> more powerful than the computers he worked on to do the Star Wars > >> special effects. So you can just imagine how much more horsepower is > >> available to the musically-inclined using Garage Band than was > >> available...even to...say...George Martin when he was producing The > >> Beatles. > >> > >> It's mind boggling. > >> > >> Of course technology can't quite replace TALENT. But in some cases, it > >> can come pretty darn close. Just turn on the radio for all the proof > >> you need. > >> > >> Randy > > > > Thanks to both of you for this info. > > > > I'm not particularly good at playing the organ, but I play good enough > > for me to enjoy it. I will admit to using the 'automatics' on mine > > quite a bit though. They fit right in with the older music I prefer to > > play. > > Well, if you can play the organ, then all you need is a little $100 > MIDI keyboard (which you can pick up at any Guitar Center), plug it > into your Mac, and you can make music in GuitarBand. > > Randy Got one and have fiddled around with GarageBand but just never got the whole loop based thing. As to organs, I have 4, 3 of which actually work and one which is decorating the garage... :) -- Lloyd
From: dene on 5 Aug 2010 13:40
"R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message news:2010080513285852695-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom... > > How's that anti-virus software doing to speed up performance on your > Windows machine, Bobby? > > Randy You have a point about the anti-virus software. I hate em and usually end up disabling the damn thing. -Greg |