From: MNMikeW on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:57:51 -0400, William Clark
> <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
>>In article <f4nl56d3bt6b4iqvl5jv675n7tjqhijjpe(a)4ax.com>,
>> bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:29:06 -0400, "R&B"
>>> <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
>
>>> >Because when new ones come out, people want the new stuff that comes
>>> >with 'em...instead of sticking with old technology.
>>> >
>>> >Randy
>>>
>>
>>> You can rant, and tout, all you want, but for the casual user, which
>>> is the vast majority, PCs work just fine, and the hubris of Mac users
>>> is a turn-off.
>>
>>No disagreement there. Each to his own.
>
> That has been my position from the beginning, and I don't take kindly
> to anyone suggesting that I lied when I say that I've never had a blue
> screen I haven't.
>
> I'm perfectly happy with PCS and don't need the snobbery from some Mac
> users.
>
> BK

I 've yet to meet a Mac owner that wasn't a snob.


From: Alan Baker on
In article <8c0ejkFtclU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> news:2010080513285852695-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> >
> > Guess you missed the news recently of Apple's financial reports. They
> > passed Microsoft.
> >
> >
> The Ipod and Iphone had more to do with that than their Mac line.

You might want to actually look at their financials before you say that.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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From: Alan Baker on
In article <5nml56h8fev4u3f8dd67o7v6lg22vnabjd(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:28:18 -0400, "R&B"
> <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
>
> >On 2010-08-04 21:39:02 -0400, bknight(a)conramp.net said:
>
> >PCs are what they are. Dells are fine machines. But it's the
> >operating system, stupid. Windows sucks. It is notorious for locking
> >up, blue screeing, giving driver conflicts, and slowing down due to the
> >weight of all the anti-virus stuff you MUST run.
>
> I have only had one problem with a virus, ever, and none of the rest
> of those you mention. I've also used every Windows OS since '95,
> either on my personal machines or at work. 2000 was not my favorite,
> but still none of the above problems.

Those aren't the biggest issue. Not by a lot.

>
> >
> >I bought a new Windows machine two years ago and installed NOTHING on
> >it besides Anti Virus and Quick Books. And after two years of using
> >the machine only to do billing on the 1st of the month and to process
> >payments and expenses (I didn't use that computer for anything else),
> >it had slowed to a crawl...until it finally crashed.
> >
> >Every Windows machine I've ever had has slowed down to a crawl after
> >normal use within a year.
> >
> Ever stopped to think it may be you, and not Windows???
> >Of course I'm doing more than just Office tasks. Video, audio, graphics.
> >
> >Macs are just made for that type of work. Windows just labors too much
> >to get through that stuff.
>
> OK, so you have specific needs. 99% of users don't.

It's better at everything, Bobby. It just gets in your way less.

> >
> >>
> >>
> >> The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with
> >> Vista.
>
> >
> >And Vista is just a joke. Even Microsoft admits that.
>
> Its worked fine for me Randy, and please show a site where MS says
> such a thing.

LOL

You're kidding, right?

And you saying it "worked fine for me", just proves my point about
people not realizing how the tools they are using can be holding them
back.

>
> >The big question is, which Windows does Microsoft disown today?
> BS clipped

LOL

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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From: William Clark on
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-5D344A.21043904082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>> In article <8bubjkF32bU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2010080413102254129-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
>>>> On 2010-08-03 18:26:45 -0400, dene said:
>>>
>>>> If there's one thing I'm certain of, it's this:
>>>>
>>>> You can stay "old skool" if you wanna...but if you don't embrace
>>>> emerging technology, you will render yourself irrelevent to the
> > > > modern
>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>> I see it all the time in my business. Guys I know who are my age
> > > > who
>>>> have resisted the move away from tape to digital audio were swept
> > > > away
>>>> and are no longer working. I'm *so* glad I've always been
> > > > something of
>>>> a gadget freak and have embraced all-things-computer.
>>>>
>>>> Randy
>>>
>>> I'm on the 12th hole, 145 yd. par 3. My 4 hdcp. golfing buddy hits
> > > a
>>> nice 8
>>> iron shot for his 2nd lifetime hole in one.
>>>
>>> I missed the whole thing. Why?
>>> I was messing with my new I-Phone and had my back turned to him.
>>>
>>> There is a lesson here.....
>>>
>>> -Greg
>>
>> Yes, don't take bloody cell phones onto the golf course. Aaaargh!
>
> Just how are you going to post at the turn then? ;-)

Like this :-)
From: Alan Baker on
In article <8c09uaFvitU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> news:2010080511102928056-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> > On 2010-08-04 20:37:25 -0400, dene said:
>
> > Dene,
> >
> > I *guarantee* if you ever bought a MacBook Pro and used it exclusively
> > for six months, you'd realize that the $2200 you spent on the Mac is a
> > better value than the $600 you spent on the Toshiba door stop.
> >
> > I'm serious.
> >
> > I was right where you are four years ago. Then I took the plunge. Now
> > I have a completely different perspective.
> >
> > Randy
>
> I think your computer needs are far more complicated than mine. When
> something works, like old software, old OS, etc., I'm relunctant to update
> it. Therefore, it's fairly rare that I'm dealing with driver issues. I've
> also been fortunate to never have a virus.....probably because I don't visit
> obscure websites, especially peer to peer ones.

One of the major reasons people are "reluctant to update" is that they
subconsciously fear that doing so will great new problems they have to
learn to deal with.

Randy is right: Macs just work.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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