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From: dene on 5 Aug 2010 16:07 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-C76F44.12463705082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > The idea under consideration here is your assertion that know one can > know more about what you need because they cannot read your mind and > there are clearly lots of instances where humans are not the best judge > of what it is they need. But you, of course, are judge and jury as to what a computer user requires. Ever consider this factor with your "testimonials?" Most people put thought into large dollar purchases. Therefore, if they choose a Mac and then determine it's equivalent or slightly superior to a PC, are they going to admit it? Quietly perhaps. That leaves the loud ones who require affirmation. They will tout their purchase to the nth degree, just to stroke their own ego and diminish their nagging doubts. I've seen it happen with cars, boats, golf clubs, etc. My toy is better than yours, only because I own it. -Greg
From: dene on 5 Aug 2010 16:10 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-38F8ED.12321205082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <e04m561hj732q1q3hsecfpttl9oo8hb104(a)4ax.com>, > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:04:50 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> > > wrote: > > > > > > >And is your attitude the same in every part of life? When you hear about > > >a better way to hit the golf ball from a pro, do you tell him, "your > > >years of experience don't count"? > > > > I would only hear from him if I thought he was a good pro and I hired > > him. > > So expertise in a field is only valuable if you paid for it? > > Butch Harmon's understanding of the golf swing is less than yours > because you haven't paid for it? > > > > > Hint. > > Sorry, Bobby, but the world doesn't work that way. The part of computers > that interests me most is the human-computer interaction. I'm always > observing my clients as they use the computer and what I see is that > they don't even see the way things get in their way. They don't perceive > things as problems unless it's a "blue screen". Explain my satisfaction with my 8 year old Dell desktop. I haven't seen a blue screen in years. Others are saying the same thing. You're caught up in your ego and limited paradigm. -Greg
From: dene on 5 Aug 2010 16:11 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-41004A.12491605082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <8c0ipaFoc9U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > You don't have the extra sensory intelligence to tell me what I mean > > > > when it say that, so don't go there. > > > > > > > > BK > > > > > > Baker, Like Randy and Clark are your typical McSnobs. How dare you > > question > > > the illuminati on all things computer. No surprise they are all liberal as > > > well. > > > > Couldn't tell you what Cluck has said but I don't think it's fair to compare > > Randy's posts to Baker. Randy's computer usage is probably more high end > > and complicated than your's, mine, and perhaps Bobby's. He made a switch > > and was rewarded for it. It's natural for him to share this. > > > > Baker is one of these arrogant asses who believes his toys are better than > > everybody else's. > > LOL > > I get paid to offer people advice on their computers, Greg. It's what I > do for a living. > > You remember: the thing you've repeatedly lied about me not having. > > :-) If you have a job, why don't you get busy with it and leave the grownups alone. -Greg
From: dene on 5 Aug 2010 16:14 "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:8c0j1qFq4gU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > You like ur macs, fine. I like my Pcs. Are Macs better at some things, sure. > And PCs are better at some things. Bingo....but don't expect Baker to comprehend this grown up concept. His toys rule. We savages drool. -Greg
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 16:19
In article <8c0jo6FugbU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-C76F44.12463705082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > The idea under consideration here is your assertion that know one can > > know more about what you need because they cannot read your mind and > > there are clearly lots of instances where humans are not the best judge > > of what it is they need. > > But you, of course, are judge and jury as to what a computer user requires. Nope. Nothing so grand. I'm a personal computer support professional who has spent more than twenty years, using, selling and supporting personal computers and personal computer users. As such, I've learned that what people think is going on and what is actually going on with their use of computers differs widely. I'm not making this stuff up, Greg: people *literally* say that they couldn't get why it would make such a difference, but that they were completely wrong and it *does*. I've seen it over and over and over again. > > Ever consider this factor with your "testimonials?" Most people put thought > into large dollar purchases. Therefore, if they choose a Mac and then > determine it's equivalent or slightly superior to a PC, are they going to > admit it? Quietly perhaps. That leaves the loud ones who require > affirmation. They will tout their purchase to the nth degree, just to > stroke their own ego and diminish their nagging doubts. I've seen it happen > with cars, boats, golf clubs, etc. My toy is better than yours, only > because I own it. There is undoubtedly some of that, but look at the preponderance of people who report after the switch that the Mac *is* that much better than using Windows. And then there are guys like this: "On June 20th, I declared that I was going to try A Month of Mac. �I took my Macbook Pro (an older model from about 18 months ago) up to Alaska, left my Lenovo x300 in Boulder, and went native Mac. I�m typing this on my brand new spiffy MacBook Pro 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 with 8GB RAM, with a 500GB solid state hard drive. �I can�t figure out why I�ve been so stubborn about really switching to the Mac. �This is a beautiful computer. The key to this switch was that the native mac apps (Mail, iCal, and Address Book) sync seamlessly with Exchange. �So I don�t have to deal with the abortion that is Entourage but at the same time I don�t have to mess around with our email server and impact everyone else in our organization. �That�s sweet. �I had a feeling this would work this time since it works flawlessly on my iPhone and iPad, and it did. �The only thing missing is Tasks, but I started using Evernote instead which actually worked even better than the Outlook Task manager." <http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2010/08/the-mac-won-me-over.html> So he tried it for a month, and then went out and spent the money. And read the comments. I could literally spend the next couple of hours copying and pasting, but here are a few right off the top. "It's amazing that we PC users are shocked by the idea of transferring data, apps and settings without having to carve out an entire weekend to do so. After adopting the iPhone and iPad, I know that my next home PC will be a MBP. Soon the only non-Apple device I'll be using will be the company laptop. I don't see that changing in the near term (though eventually)." "I'm with you, Brad... After 20+ years with Microsoft operating systems, I swore that the next company I ran would ban the foul beasts. Switched to a Mac of my own in January and have no regrets!" "I'm happy to trade off my Outlook shortcuts, tasks, and calendar for stability, speed, and an overall pleasant user experience. Count me as a convert as well." "I made the switch about the same time you did (although I retain MS Office). My concern was also how the Mac native apps would mesh with Exchange. Clearly, I needn't have been concerned. My MacBook Pro (same model as yours) is a delight to use and has become my primary computer. I willed my Sony laptop to my wife and HP desktop to the kids. I'm a believer." "I have switched to Mac about a month ago and I feel exactly the same as you do. I expected it to be difficult but I didn't need to come back to my PC at all or even thought about using Parallels. @Tahir: I currently use OpenOffice.org and while there are some differences, I don't feel any urge to go back to Excel..." "You know I switched in '05. Because of customers w/ Windows-only infrastructure, I've had to use the occasional Windows VM. Other than that - the whole house is Mac-only, inc. my boys (13" MB + 20" iMac). I catch myself laughing at Windows users on the plane as they struggle w/ the various issues I left 5 years ago. I see the BSOD so frequently on planes, that I'm convinced it is tightly coupled w/ the sleep/wake function." -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |