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From: William Clark on 5 Aug 2010 18:16 In article <fn4m56lslhhgagjb68muo9hdu8dklvk1ru(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:15:03 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> > wrote: > > >In article <ag2m569t776q5ai8ivtm2klkp2on472sa8(a)4ax.com>, > > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > > >> No, but the haughty, high and mighty, insinuation that someone is less > >> knowledgeable because they don't agree with you is hubris. Your > >> belief that something is better doesn't make it so for others. > > > >I don't think you are less knowledgeable simply because you don't agree, > >Bobby. I've seen this same pattern played out many many times. At least > >allow for the possibility that someone who has made his living selling > >Macs (and for a short while, PCs), and later supporting Macs (and > >Windows!) might know something about the situation you don't. > > It doesn't matter Alan, my experience is enough for me to know what I > want. I've had Mac users insist that I try their machines out. They > didn't change my mind. > > You should've highlighted the word *might*. ' > BK Doesn't it scare you, though, that you are in the same camp as BAR, MnMike, and Moderate on this? Ouch ;-)
From: William Clark on 5 Aug 2010 18:16 In article <8c0g4vF7nnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-CF4A75.11411205082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article > > <359f5904-0e83-47ec-a50c-486dc5e6e0bf(a)m1g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, > > Paula <semendfw(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:57:51 -0400, William Clark > >> > <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > >> > > >> > >In article <f4nl56d3bt6b4iqvl5jv675n7tjqhijjpe(a)4ax.com>, > >> > > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:29:06 -0400, "R&B" > >> > >> <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> >Because when new ones come out, people want the new stuff that > >> > >> >comes > >> > >> >with 'em...instead of sticking with old technology. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >Randy > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > >> You can rant, and tout, all you want, but for the casual user, > >> > >> which > >> > >> is the vast majority, PCs work just fine, and the hubris of Mac > >> > >> users > >> > >> is a turn-off. > >> > > > >> > >No disagreement there. Each to his own. > >> > > >> > That has been my position from the beginning, and I don't take kindly > >> > to anyone suggesting that I lied when I say that I've never had a blue > >> > screen I haven't. > >> > > >> > I'm perfectly happy with PCS and don't need the snobbery from some Mac > >> > users. > >> > > >> > BK > >> > >> I know a lot of people that have Macs. They are not snobs. What a > >> silly statment. > >> > >> Just because someone prefers one OS over another, does that make them > >> a snob? > > > > And recognizing something is better isn't hubris. > > > Better for you is not necessarily better for somebody else. I use both > everyday, I like PCs better. Why am I not surprised?
From: William Clark on 5 Aug 2010 18:17 In article <8c0j1qFq4gU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-17C339.12433805082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article <8c0ienFmd9U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > >> news:alangbaker-A4BEFD.12294805082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > >> > In article <8c0hkoFhamU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > >> >> news:alangbaker-94E029.12122705082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > >> >> > In article <8c0g4vF7nnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > >> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:alangbaker-CF4A75.11411205082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > >> >> >> > In article > >> >> >> > <359f5904-0e83-47ec-a50c-486dc5e6e0bf(a)m1g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, > >> >> >> > Paula <semendfw(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> >> >> >> > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:57:51 -0400, William Clark > >> >> >> >> > <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >In article <f4nl56d3bt6b4iqvl5jv675n7tjqhijjpe(a)4ax.com>, > >> >> >> >> > > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > >> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:29:06 -0400, "R&B" > >> >> >> >> > >> <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >Because when new ones come out, people want the new stuff > >> >> >> >> > >> >that > >> >> >> >> > >> >comes > >> >> >> >> > >> >with 'em...instead of sticking with old technology. > >> >> >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >Randy > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > >> You can rant, and tout, all you want, but for the casual > >> >> >> >> > >> user, > >> >> >> >> > >> which > >> >> >> >> > >> is the vast majority, PCs work just fine, and the hubris of > >> >> >> >> > >> Mac > >> >> >> >> > >> users > >> >> >> >> > >> is a turn-off. > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > >No disagreement there. Each to his own. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > That has been my position from the beginning, and I don't take > >> >> >> >> > kindly > >> >> >> >> > to anyone suggesting that I lied when I say that I've never > >> >> >> >> > had a > >> >> >> >> > blue > >> >> >> >> > screen I haven't. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > I'm perfectly happy with PCS and don't need the snobbery from > >> >> >> >> > some > >> >> >> >> > Mac > >> >> >> >> > users. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > BK > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I know a lot of people that have Macs. They are not snobs. > >> >> >> >> What a > >> >> >> >> silly statment. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Just because someone prefers one OS over another, does that make > >> >> >> >> them > >> >> >> >> a snob? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > And recognizing something is better isn't hubris. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Better for you is not necessarily better for somebody else. I use > >> >> >> both > >> >> >> everyday, I like PCs better. > >> >> > > >> >> > Really? What do you do for a living that has you using both *every* > >> >> > day, > >> >> > and what is the ratio of usage? > >> >> > > >> >> Been in the computer biz since 1984. Worked on them all, > >> >> mainframes,Iseries,Unix,Linux,PCs, ect. MS certified in > >> >> NT,2000,2003,almost > >> >> done with 2008. We typically use the Macs for QA work on our desktop > >> >> apps > >> >> since we support that as well. We use the PCs far more than the macs. > >> >> And > >> >> I'm by no means a Mac expert. In fact, we've automated most of the > >> >> testing > >> >> with Java so we don't even actually have to touch the Macs now. ;-) > >> > > >> > So what you're saying is that your initial statement was actually a > >> > lie, > >> > wasn't it? > >> > >> Not at all retard. > > > > Really? > > > > "I use both" followed by "we don't even actually have to touch the Macs > > now". > > > >> > > >> > Your actual use of the interface is nil and therefore you cannot know > >> > whether you'd actually prefer it if you used it for long enough to > >> > actually know your way around it as opposed to using it for a few > >> > minutes here and there (which you might have done at one point). > >> > > >> I used the interface enough to know I like PCs better. They weren't > >> always > >> automated. > > > > When was the last time? Ho long at any one sitting did you use it? > > > Monday I suppose. And I used it long enough to get the tests running. I play > around on a friends G-something from time to time. It's ok for web stuff. In > the business apps world, its a PC world, we don't have a lot of demand to > support Macs except for our web/desktop based apps. > > You like ur macs, fine. I like my Pcs. Are Macs better at some things, sure. > And PCs are better at some things. I assume you have zero acquaintance with image and video processing, then.
From: Anonymous on 5 Aug 2010 18:27 >On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:51:41 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >What I want to know is why replying is such an evil for me, but not for >Bobby. Does this not sound just like Ken Pitts? Baker is now the victim bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
From: bknight on 5 Aug 2010 18:35
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:16:03 -0400, William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: >In article <fn4m56lslhhgagjb68muo9hdu8dklvk1ru(a)4ax.com>, > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >> .....my experience is enough for me to know what I >> want. I've had Mac users insist that I try their machines out. They >> didn't change my mind. >> >> You should've highlighted the word *might*. ' >> BK > >Doesn't it scare you, though, that you are in the same camp as BAR, >MnMike, and Moderate on this? > >Ouch ;-) I guess it gives you comfort to be in someone's camp? I decide what is best for me. BK |