From: William Clark on
In article <fn4m56lslhhgagjb68muo9hdu8dklvk1ru(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 12:15:03 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <ag2m569t776q5ai8ivtm2klkp2on472sa8(a)4ax.com>,
> > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
>
> >> No, but the haughty, high and mighty, insinuation that someone is less
> >> knowledgeable because they don't agree with you is hubris. Your
> >> belief that something is better doesn't make it so for others.
> >
> >I don't think you are less knowledgeable simply because you don't agree,
> >Bobby. I've seen this same pattern played out many many times. At least
> >allow for the possibility that someone who has made his living selling
> >Macs (and for a short while, PCs), and later supporting Macs (and
> >Windows!) might know something about the situation you don't.
>
> It doesn't matter Alan, my experience is enough for me to know what I
> want. I've had Mac users insist that I try their machines out. They
> didn't change my mind.
>
> You should've highlighted the word *might*. '
> BK

Doesn't it scare you, though, that you are in the same camp as BAR,
MnMike, and Moderate on this?

Ouch ;-)
From: William Clark on
In article <8c0g4vF7nnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-CF4A75.11411205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article
> > <359f5904-0e83-47ec-a50c-486dc5e6e0bf(a)m1g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> > Paula <semendfw(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:57:51 -0400, William Clark
> >> > <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >In article <f4nl56d3bt6b4iqvl5jv675n7tjqhijjpe(a)4ax.com>,
> >> > > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:29:06 -0400, "R&B"
> >> > >> <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> >Because when new ones come out, people want the new stuff that
> >> > >> >comes
> >> > >> >with 'em...instead of sticking with old technology.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >Randy
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >> You can rant, and tout, all you want, but for the casual user,
> >> > >> which
> >> > >> is the vast majority, PCs work just fine, and the hubris of Mac
> >> > >> users
> >> > >> is a turn-off.
> >> > >
> >> > >No disagreement there. Each to his own.
> >> >
> >> > That has been my position from the beginning, and I don't take kindly
> >> > to anyone suggesting that I lied when I say that I've never had a blue
> >> > screen I haven't.
> >> >
> >> > I'm perfectly happy with PCS and don't need the snobbery from some Mac
> >> > users.
> >> >
> >> > BK
> >>
> >> I know a lot of people that have Macs. They are not snobs. What a
> >> silly statment.
> >>
> >> Just because someone prefers one OS over another, does that make them
> >> a snob?
> >
> > And recognizing something is better isn't hubris.
> >
> Better for you is not necessarily better for somebody else. I use both
> everyday, I like PCs better.

Why am I not surprised?
From: William Clark on
In article <8c0j1qFq4gU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-17C339.12433805082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <8c0ienFmd9U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-A4BEFD.12294805082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >> > In article <8c0hkoFhamU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:alangbaker-94E029.12122705082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >> >> > In article <8c0g4vF7nnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:alangbaker-CF4A75.11411205082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> > <359f5904-0e83-47ec-a50c-486dc5e6e0bf(a)m1g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> >> > Paula <semendfw(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:57:51 -0400, William Clark
> >> >> >> >> > <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > >In article <f4nl56d3bt6b4iqvl5jv675n7tjqhijjpe(a)4ax.com>,
> >> >> >> >> > > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > >> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:29:06 -0400, "R&B"
> >> >> >> >> > >> <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > >> >Because when new ones come out, people want the new stuff
> >> >> >> >> > >> >that
> >> >> >> >> > >> >comes
> >> >> >> >> > >> >with 'em...instead of sticking with old technology.
> >> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> >> > >> >Randy
> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > >> You can rant, and tout, all you want, but for the casual
> >> >> >> >> > >> user,
> >> >> >> >> > >> which
> >> >> >> >> > >> is the vast majority, PCs work just fine, and the hubris of
> >> >> >> >> > >> Mac
> >> >> >> >> > >> users
> >> >> >> >> > >> is a turn-off.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > >No disagreement there. Each to his own.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > That has been my position from the beginning, and I don't take
> >> >> >> >> > kindly
> >> >> >> >> > to anyone suggesting that I lied when I say that I've never
> >> >> >> >> > had a
> >> >> >> >> > blue
> >> >> >> >> > screen I haven't.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I'm perfectly happy with PCS and don't need the snobbery from
> >> >> >> >> > some
> >> >> >> >> > Mac
> >> >> >> >> > users.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > BK
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I know a lot of people that have Macs. They are not snobs.
> >> >> >> >> What a
> >> >> >> >> silly statment.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Just because someone prefers one OS over another, does that make
> >> >> >> >> them
> >> >> >> >> a snob?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > And recognizing something is better isn't hubris.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Better for you is not necessarily better for somebody else. I use
> >> >> >> both
> >> >> >> everyday, I like PCs better.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Really? What do you do for a living that has you using both *every*
> >> >> > day,
> >> >> > and what is the ratio of usage?
> >> >> >
> >> >> Been in the computer biz since 1984. Worked on them all,
> >> >> mainframes,Iseries,Unix,Linux,PCs, ect. MS certified in
> >> >> NT,2000,2003,almost
> >> >> done with 2008. We typically use the Macs for QA work on our desktop
> >> >> apps
> >> >> since we support that as well. We use the PCs far more than the macs.
> >> >> And
> >> >> I'm by no means a Mac expert. In fact, we've automated most of the
> >> >> testing
> >> >> with Java so we don't even actually have to touch the Macs now. ;-)
> >> >
> >> > So what you're saying is that your initial statement was actually a
> >> > lie,
> >> > wasn't it?
> >>
> >> Not at all retard.
> >
> > Really?
> >
> > "I use both" followed by "we don't even actually have to touch the Macs
> > now".
> >
> >> >
> >> > Your actual use of the interface is nil and therefore you cannot know
> >> > whether you'd actually prefer it if you used it for long enough to
> >> > actually know your way around it as opposed to using it for a few
> >> > minutes here and there (which you might have done at one point).
> >> >
> >> I used the interface enough to know I like PCs better. They weren't
> >> always
> >> automated.
> >
> > When was the last time? Ho long at any one sitting did you use it?
> >
> Monday I suppose. And I used it long enough to get the tests running. I play
> around on a friends G-something from time to time. It's ok for web stuff. In
> the business apps world, its a PC world, we don't have a lot of demand to
> support Macs except for our web/desktop based apps.
>
> You like ur macs, fine. I like my Pcs. Are Macs better at some things, sure.
> And PCs are better at some things.

I assume you have zero acquaintance with image and video processing,
then.
From: Anonymous on
>On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:51:41 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote:


>What I want to know is why replying is such an evil for me, but not for
>Bobby.

Does this not sound just like Ken Pitts? Baker is now the
victim bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

From: bknight on
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:16:03 -0400, William Clark
<wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:

>In article <fn4m56lslhhgagjb68muo9hdu8dklvk1ru(a)4ax.com>,
> bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

>> .....my experience is enough for me to know what I
>> want. I've had Mac users insist that I try their machines out. They
>> didn't change my mind.
>>
>> You should've highlighted the word *might*. '
>> BK
>
>Doesn't it scare you, though, that you are in the same camp as BAR,
>MnMike, and Moderate on this?
>
>Ouch ;-)

I guess it gives you comfort to be in someone's camp?
I decide what is best for me.

BK
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