From: BAR on
In article <8c000uF16iU1(a)mid.individual.net>, MNMiikkew(a)aol.com says...
>
> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4c59f952$0$4966$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:55:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >> In article <clark-F0673C.14280304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> >> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> >>>
> >>> Yes, just run Parallels or Boot Camp, and you can run Windows as well
> >>> and fast as on a PC, and you have the blissful relief of being able
> >>> to go back to OS X for sanity. It is amazing now how the Macs are
> >>> making inroads into the science and engineering student market, where
> >>> so many essential apps used to be PC only. The kids love them, and
> >>> they are so much less demanding of technician time than PCs.
> >>
> >> Get VMWare and run everything.
> >
> > VMWare's market is disappearing thanks to KVM and various other
> > less expensive or free virtualization solutions.
>
> Perhaps in the desktop market. ESX is the only way to really run enterprise
> servers.

Oh, I forgot Carbon is an expert in everything.

From: BAR on
In article <clark-091517.11001705082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
>
> In article <8c00d1F3r9U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > news:kh4k56thbo0o6uegb12r7omsbo5r23164i(a)4ax.com...
> > > On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > -Greg
> > >>>
> > >>> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall is
> > >>> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
> > >>> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown in,
> > >>> and this is also part of the current deal.
> > >>>
> > >>> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the campus
> > >>> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service. Given
> > >>> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and diming
> > >>> to set up a usable system.
> > >>>
> > >>> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
> > >>
> > >>And higher resale values.
> > >
> > >
> > > Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-)
> > >
> > > I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only
> > > Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I
> > > bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only
> > > one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other
> > > reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the
> > > FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I
> > > needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen.
> > >
> > > The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with
> > > Vista.
> > >
> > > IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants
> > > about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes.
> > >
> > > BK
> >
> > Well said Bobby. Been working on PC's since their inception. Rarely have any
> > issues.
>
> Me, too, but some of us move forward.

It has nothing to do with moving forward or being backwards. It just
took Apple longer to realize the superiority and supremacy of the Intel
chipset.

From: William Clark on
In article <item56l9col6ltvj1r6eie91lu74dap8fp(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:16:03 -0400, William Clark
> <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <fn4m56lslhhgagjb68muo9hdu8dklvk1ru(a)4ax.com>,
> > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
>
> >> .....my experience is enough for me to know what I
> >> want. I've had Mac users insist that I try their machines out. They
> >> didn't change my mind.
> >>
> >> You should've highlighted the word *might*. '
> >> BK
> >
> >Doesn't it scare you, though, that you are in the same camp as BAR,
> >MnMike, and Moderate on this?
> >
> >Ouch ;-)
>
> I guess it gives you comfort to be in someone's camp?
> I decide what is best for me.
>
> BK

I guess I should have put more smileys on :-)
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.26c51a7415f29b2598a1c9(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <clark-091517.11001705082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> >
> > In article <8c00d1F3r9U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > news:kh4k56thbo0o6uegb12r7omsbo5r23164i(a)4ax.com...
> > > > On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:21:35 -0700, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > -Greg
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Nonsense - the basic 13" MacBook that I bought my daughter last Fall
> > > >>> is
> > > >>> currently selling at $949, in the campus computer store, given the
> > > >>> student discount. She also got a wireless HP printer/scanner thrown
> > > >>> in,
> > > >>> and this is also part of the current deal.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That includes iSight camera, bluetooth, 802.11n wifi (most of the
> > > >>> campus
> > > >>> has wifi access), DVD player/burner, and on-campus repair service.
> > > >>> Given
> > > >>> that students can get Office for ~$50 - none of the PC nickel and
> > > >>> diming
> > > >>> to set up a usable system.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Oh, and the best part of all? No Windoze ;-)
> > > >>
> > > >>And higher resale values.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Talk about nonsense. Who ever resold a computer???? :-)
> > > >
> > > > I think the chronic criticisms of PCs is bullshit. I've had only
> > > > Dells since '95, in fact we still have one in my home office that I
> > > > bought in '98 that's still going strong. I've had 5 desktops and only
> > > > one blew up...because of a virus. We've bought new ones for other
> > > > reasons though. The rest are still alive. There was the one that the
> > > > FBI had me testify about....bought it from a store in Dallas. When I
> > > > needed some support from Dell I found out that it was stolen.
> > > >
> > > > The two laptops are in great shape, and I never had a problem with
> > > > Vista.
> > > >
> > > > IMO the Mac is a fine computer, but the ballyhoo and owner rants
> > > > about PCs isn't merited as far as my experience goes.
> > > >
> > > > BK
> > >
> > > Well said Bobby. Been working on PC's since their inception. Rarely have
> > > any
> > > issues.
> >
> > Me, too, but some of us move forward.
>
> It has nothing to do with moving forward or being backwards. It just
> took Apple longer to realize the superiority and supremacy of the Intel
> chipset.

No, Apple's creativity was eating into MS long before the Intel switch.
We can still run pre-Intel machines perfectly well - you're simply wrong
- again.
From: bknight on
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 19:55:29 -0400, "R&B"
<none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:


>
>I did nothing to provoke this. Unless you consider it a personal
>attack on YOU for someone to express their legitimate negative reviews
>of Microsoft and Windows.
>
>What's up with that, Bobby? Why the thin skin?
>
>Randy

I'll try once more with you. Alan just won't understand.

Your posts regarding my choice of equipment, and what I know about it
were demeaning. You went way above just expressing your opinion. You,
and later Alan, treated my opinions as a less than reasonable, more
like stupidity, when I expressed my experiences and choices. I have
my preferences, and that should be enough.

I know that you have a propensity to overstate your views, but
I took umbrage at this attitude regarding mine.

BK
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