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From: R&B on 4 Aug 2010 17:33 On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said: > In article <2010080413174055869-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > >> On 2010-08-04 02:10:57 -0400, dene said: >> >>> "Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net> wrote in message >>> news:qn26o.35303$Bh2.27325(a)newsfe04.iad... >>>> >>>> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message >>>> news:8brjojFnl6U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>> >>>>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:fsng56ds78hrm3q67sc8oqnvrol685lj15(a)4ax.com... >>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:52:29 -0400, William Clark >>>>>> <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can't tether the iPhone to a computer and use it as a modem. That >>> is >>>>>>> one feature that AT&T blocked, and which draws the loudest complaints. >>> I >>>>>>> believe, but I'm not sure, that iPhones that have been jailbroken can >>>>>>> tether. Apple continues to be pressed on tethering, but I think that >>>>>>> AT&T is so wedded to selling users a USB modem data plan, thay simply >>>>>>> won't budge. >>>>>> >>>>>> AT&T has just offered tethering for an additional $20 monthly if you >>>>>> use their DataPro plan. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm with Randy though...if I need to go to the Internet I just use the >>>>>> iPhone. Plus, I have never once texted anyone, so no way I upgrade to >>>>>> any data plan. >>>>>> >>>>>> BK >>>>> >>>>> I looked into it and may consider it. One neat feature is that if you >>>>> elect >>>>> the tethering feature, you add 2 gigs to the existing data plan. That's >>> a >>>>> winner for my wife, who has the limited plan. Another feature is that >>>>> there >>>>> is no wire. The phone acts like a wireless wifi router. In fact, you >>> can >>>>> connect two laptops to one phone. Pretty cool, when you consider the >>>>> alternative of patiently waiting for the wife to get off the laptop. >>>>> >>>>> -Greg >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> laptops are cheap -- we have 2 in the living room! >>> >>> Yeah....got a couple three myself. The problem is when we're in our RV or >>> on a boat. Being able to share one connection at one time would be nice. >>> >>> -Greg >> >> >> Windows laptops are cheap. Mac laptops? Not so much. Not the >> "MacBook Pro" laptops anyway (which are the only ones I'd have -- I >> have a 17" and love it). >> >> Since making the switch to Mac nearly 3 years ago (I now have the one >> laptop and two iMacs, and am about to get another), I've only regretted >> not making the switch much, much sooner. >> >> Sadly, I have to keep one Windows machine (to run Quick Books for my >> company, since Intuit's Mac version of Quick Books is HORRIBLE). I >> bought a new Windows 7 machine this past Spring and the damn thing >> crashed three times the first week. I *hate* Windows, and I just laugh >> every time I see one of those idiotic Windows 7 commercials on TV where >> people say, "Windows 7 was my idea." Was it your idea for the >> operating system to keep crashing, too? > > Randy: you can get a number of different virtualization products > (Parallels, VMware Fusion, etc.) that allow you to run Windows at the > same time as Mac OS X on your Mac. It's a perfect solution to the "I > have one program that I have to use Windows for" issue. Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on my Macs. I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of my Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen. I don't even like having Microsoft Office for Mac on my Macs. Randy
From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 17:56 In article <2010080417332279531-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said: > > > In article <2010080413174055869-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, > > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote: > > > >> On 2010-08-04 02:10:57 -0400, dene said: > >> > >>> "Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net> wrote in message > >>> news:qn26o.35303$Bh2.27325(a)newsfe04.iad... > >>>> > >>>> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:8brjojFnl6U1(a)mid.individual.net... > >>>>> > >>>>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:fsng56ds78hrm3q67sc8oqnvrol685lj15(a)4ax.com... > >>>>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:52:29 -0400, William Clark > >>>>>> <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You can't tether the iPhone to a computer and use it as a modem. That > >>> is > >>>>>>> one feature that AT&T blocked, and which draws the loudest complaints. > >>> I > >>>>>>> believe, but I'm not sure, that iPhones that have been jailbroken can > >>>>>>> tether. Apple continues to be pressed on tethering, but I think that > >>>>>>> AT&T is so wedded to selling users a USB modem data plan, thay simply > >>>>>>> won't budge. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> AT&T has just offered tethering for an additional $20 monthly if you > >>>>>> use their DataPro plan. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm with Randy though...if I need to go to the Internet I just use the > >>>>>> iPhone. Plus, I have never once texted anyone, so no way I upgrade to > >>>>>> any data plan. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> BK > >>>>> > >>>>> I looked into it and may consider it. One neat feature is that if you > >>>>> elect > >>>>> the tethering feature, you add 2 gigs to the existing data plan. That's > >>> a > >>>>> winner for my wife, who has the limited plan. Another feature is that > >>>>> there > >>>>> is no wire. The phone acts like a wireless wifi router. In fact, you > >>> can > >>>>> connect two laptops to one phone. Pretty cool, when you consider the > >>>>> alternative of patiently waiting for the wife to get off the laptop. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Greg > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> laptops are cheap -- we have 2 in the living room! > >>> > >>> Yeah....got a couple three myself. The problem is when we're in our RV or > >>> on a boat. Being able to share one connection at one time would be nice. > >>> > >>> -Greg > >> > >> > >> Windows laptops are cheap. Mac laptops? Not so much. Not the > >> "MacBook Pro" laptops anyway (which are the only ones I'd have -- I > >> have a 17" and love it). > >> > >> Since making the switch to Mac nearly 3 years ago (I now have the one > >> laptop and two iMacs, and am about to get another), I've only regretted > >> not making the switch much, much sooner. > >> > >> Sadly, I have to keep one Windows machine (to run Quick Books for my > >> company, since Intuit's Mac version of Quick Books is HORRIBLE). I > >> bought a new Windows 7 machine this past Spring and the damn thing > >> crashed three times the first week. I *hate* Windows, and I just laugh > >> every time I see one of those idiotic Windows 7 commercials on TV where > >> people say, "Windows 7 was my idea." Was it your idea for the > >> operating system to keep crashing, too? > > > > Randy: you can get a number of different virtualization products > > (Parallels, VMware Fusion, etc.) that allow you to run Windows at the > > same time as Mac OS X on your Mac. It's a perfect solution to the "I > > have one program that I have to use Windows for" issue. > > > Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on my Macs. > > I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of my > Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen. Meh. Having Windows in an enclosed box on your Mac is about the best way to have Windows, if you ask me. Certainly better than having it run on a physical box. :-) > > I don't even like having Microsoft Office for Mac on my Macs. Agreed. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Carbon on 4 Aug 2010 18:21 On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:15:42 -0700, Alan Baker wrote: > In article > <clark-F0673C.14280304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, William > Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > >> Yes, just run Parallels or Boot Camp, and you can run Windows as well >> and fast as on a PC, and you have the blissful relief of being able >> to go back to OS X for sanity. It is amazing now how the Macs are >> making inroads into the science and engineering student market, where >> so many essential apps used to be PC only. The kids love them, and >> they are so much less demanding of technician time than PCs. > > Sadly... > > ...because I'm a Mac tech! > > :-) You could always take up Linux ;-)
From: Carbon on 4 Aug 2010 18:26 On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:33:22 -0400, R&B wrote: > On 2010-08-04 13:24:05 -0400, Alan Baker said: > >> Randy: you can get a number of different virtualization products >> (Parallels, VMware Fusion, etc.) that allow you to run Windows at the >> same time as Mac OS X on your Mac. It's a perfect solution to the "I >> have one program that I have to use Windows for" issue. > > Yes, I'm well aware of all the options that allow running Windoze on > my Macs. > > I would rather sleep with Greg Schoenberg than put Windows on any of > my Macs. In other words: That ain't gonna happen. OTOH, VMs are the best way to contain the poison. I'll fire up a Windows VM if I need to run a Windows-only program or test something work-related. Otherwise, I can turn them off and not bother with them.
From: BAR on 4 Aug 2010 18:55
In article <clark-F0673C.14280304082010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > Yes, just run Parallels or Boot Camp, and you can run Windows as well > and fast as on a PC, and you have the blissful relief of being able to > go back to OS X for sanity. It is amazing now how the Macs are making > inroads into the science and engineering student market, where so many > essential apps used to be PC only. The kids love them, and they are so > much less demanding of technician time than PCs. > > Get VMWare and run everything. |