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From: golfbum18 on 28 Jun 2010 19:48 On Jun 28, 10:13 am, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > "Mike Dalecki" <m...(a)dontincludethistclubdoctor.com> wrote in message > > news:88pfb4F2jfU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > > Today, if you want golf talk, you need to find a moderated forum like the > > Golf Channel, or some such. You're not going to find it here. > > Ok, so I went over to the golf channel website and clicked on the > discussions. I see someone has a discussion labeled "Tom Watson - Bad > Sportsmanship" I click on this thread and this bufoon is making the point > that Tom threw his golf ball in the water on 18 and that is bad > sportsmanship. He equates this to Tiger throwing golf clubs. > > Now I ask, what is the point of going to moderated boards when they do not > filter out idiots? Any kind of moronic post is ok as long as it is golf > related? No thanks. For those that missed it, Tom said that the "old girl deserves a few balls now and then." Also a thought back to his early victory at the course. There was no anger involved.
From: Antonio Veranos on 28 Jun 2010 20:31 [Frank Ketchum <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu>] [Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:13:05 -0400] : Now I ask, what is the point of going to moderated boards when they do not : filter out idiots? Any kind of moronic post is ok as long as it is golf : related? No thanks. Moderation is not intended to be - nor should it be - to filter out opinions with which any poster or group(s) of posters disagree... not on any forum I've ever been on as a poster/moderator. Moderation is generally there for a degree of civility, not to create an echo chamber. -- Antonio Veranos What color does a smurf go when you choke it?
From: Noons on 28 Jun 2010 22:44 On Jun 28, 3:16 am, Mike Dalecki <m...(a)dontincludethistclubdoctor.com> wrote: > Antonio Veranos wrote: > > I've resubscribed as I'm done with surgery and about ready to hit the > > links again, plus there's some exciting golf taking place around the Good to know you're recovered. Welcome back, although the place isn't worth much now. > It is a terrible shame. Unlike what others have said (RSG has always > been like this), that is not so. Yes it has. Lots of disguised scamming and pushing one's applecart has always been the hallmark of this ng. Of course, some did it more or less openly, others with the help of their followers or alter egos and fake discussions. The whole thing went bad when some started to point out ALL scam artists around, not just the ones against the status quo. > Most of those events are still going, they've just evolved away from RSG. Thank the Gods for that! About time this place stopped being a club magazine. Want to fom a club? Do it outside of the Usenet. > Remember the swing debates (the Golfing Machine!), the equipment > threads, the short game and mental game and course review threads? > Alas, no more. Remember the bitching about swing methods and teachings? The constant bickering between the scammers of various systems? The constant chasing of spammers by their opposing scam artists? The review threads totally irrelevant to non-US residents? (yes, it is an I-N-T-E- R-N-A-T-I-O-N-A-L newsgroup, not just the south-east US...) Thanks heavens, no more! > Most who want to talk about golf have left and found other venues. I'm > on a couple mailing lists with former RSG'ers, who had grown tired of > the drama and self-centeredness which defined most of RSG. You and others here have *always* been in the mailing lists, nothing new. In fact, I do recall that was one of the contentious points here? > I pop in from time to time to chronicle the decline of RSG; it > fascinates me, that this unregulated forum has degenerated into shouting > matches, during which NOBODY'S mind is changed. And yet the shouting > continues. Would be nice if it was just that, at least it'd be mildly funny...
From: Lily on 29 Jun 2010 08:31 Antonio Veranos wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've resubscribed as I'm done with surgery and about ready to hit the > links again, plus there's some exciting golf taking place around the > world right now and I figured there'd be lots of discussion about it > on RSG. Having said that, I can't find any golf posts, and instead > see a lot of ignorant bleating on various political topics. The > polidiocy which has spoiled many forums hasn't spread to this extent > to RSG and actually ruined the place, has it? That would be a > terrible shame. Unfortunately these spoilers are all over Usenet. If you look at the headers of e.g. 'Nomen Nescio' you'll see that they're using a remailer (www.dizum.com) See also http://www.dizum.com/help/usenet.html [11] Q: What is your policy on off-topic postings? A: We do not have a policy against off-topic postings and we rely on users to operate in a way that they feel is appropriate for Usenet and/or the groups they are participating in.
From: R&B on 29 Jun 2010 15:06
On 2010-06-27 13:16:05 -0400, Mike Dalecki said: > Antonio Veranos wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I've resubscribed as I'm done with surgery and about ready to hit the >> links again, plus there's some exciting golf taking place around the >> world right now and I figured there'd be lots of discussion about it on >> RSG. Having said that, I can't find any golf posts, and instead see a >> lot of ignorant bleating on various political topics. The polidiocy >> which has spoiled many forums hasn't spread to this extent to RSG and >> actually ruined the place, has it? That would be a terrible shame. >> > > It is a terrible shame. Unlike what others have said (RSG has always > been like this), that is not so. > > Back at the end of the 1990s and during the early 2000s, RSG was a > beautiful place on the web. Oh, there were a few spammers, and the > meowers would take a shot every once in a while, but mostly it was > about golf. > > Remember the big RSG events, the invites (where everyone was invited)? > Remember RSG-Atlanta (both I and II)? Remember when there were RSG > events all over the place (Atlanta, Northwest, Ohio, Pittsburg, > Hershey, Wisconsin, Cincy)? Remember RSG-Ohio, what some might > consider the premier event? > > Most of those events are still going, they've just evolved away from RSG. > > Remember the swing debates (the Golfing Machine!), the equipment > threads, the short game and mental game and course review threads? > Alas, no more. > > Most who want to talk about golf have left and found other venues. I'm > on a couple mailing lists with former RSG'ers, who had grown tired of > the drama and self-centeredness which defined most of RSG. > > I pop in from time to time to chronicle the decline of RSG; it > fascinates me, that this unregulated forum has degenerated into > shouting matches, during which NOBODY'S mind is changed. And yet the > shouting continues. > > (What's that old definition of mental illness? Doing the same thing > over and over, yet expecting a different outcome?) > > Today, if you want golf talk, you need to find a moderated forum like > the Golf Channel, or some such. You're not going to find it here. > > > Congrats on being past the surgery, BTW. Take it easy, do what the > doctors tell you to do, and enjoy the recovery. > > Mike Bullseye. (Technically, that's a golf post, since Corey Pavin was putting with a Bullseye in Hartford last week.) Randy |