From: Kommienezuspadt on

"gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Kommienezuspadt" <nospam(a)nothanks.net> wrote in message
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>> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know
>>> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ...
>>>
>>> The health insurance industry, along with major league
>>> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States
>>> with an anti-trust exemption.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> It has worked out well for the insurance industry -- for the consumer -
>> not so much.
>>
> I'm wondering why it all of a sudden, is being mentioned
> after a bill is through the finance committee. Some guy on
> local talk said "that old thing" like it's no big deal.
>
> I'm worried that health care is just like bank bailouts and
> saving and loan scandal and billions of dollars missing in
> military funds.
>
> But on the other hand, I'm sure the money is being put in a
> big fund to help vererans and the baby boomers retirement
> and to save social security. Ha
>
>
>

I'm a capitalist -- have been for 37+ years --- but I heard the other day
that the insurance industry takes in over 200 billion dollars in profits &
overhead out of health care every year. Imagine that amount -- it is over
twice what is being planned for giving coverage in the plans floating
around.

As for why now? I suspect it is partly fueled by anger over the insurance
industry using half truths with a purposely flawed study to try to keep a
strangle hold on their profits.

I keep waiting for the free market types to defend this protection -- but so
far I've only gotten insults from them -- must be they have not received
their orders.


From: Kommienezuspadt on

"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:30:28 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
>>Sen. Harry Reid says the health care proposal coming form the Senate
>>will cost $2,000,000,000,000. It's caught on video too. Does that scare
>>you?
>
> Which is not saying that health care won't cost around that if the
> bill isn't passed.
>


or more.

> --
> "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
> than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
> to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
>
> - James Madison


From: The moderator on

"Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net> wrote in message
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> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Kommienezuspadt" <nospam(a)nothanks.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad...
>>>> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know
>>>> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ...
>>>>
>>>> The health insurance industry, along with major league
>>>> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States
>>>> with an anti-trust exemption.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It has worked out well for the insurance industry -- for the consumer -
>>> not so much.
>>>
>> I'm wondering why it all of a sudden, is being mentioned
>> after a bill is through the finance committee. Some guy on
>> local talk said "that old thing" like it's no big deal.
>>
>> I'm worried that health care is just like bank bailouts and
>> saving and loan scandal and billions of dollars missing in
>> military funds.
>>
>> But on the other hand, I'm sure the money is being put in a
>> big fund to help vererans and the baby boomers retirement
>> and to save social security. Ha
>>
>>
>>
>
> I'm a capitalist -- have been for 37+ years --- but I heard the other day
> that the insurance industry takes in over 200 billion dollars in profits &
> overhead out of health care every year. Imagine that amount -- it is over
> twice what is being planned for giving coverage in the plans floating
> around.
>
> As for why now? I suspect it is partly fueled by anger over the insurance
> industry using half truths with a purposely flawed study to try to keep a
> strangle hold on their profits.
>
> I keep waiting for the free market types to defend this protection -- but
> so far I've only gotten insults from them -- must be they have not
> received their orders.

Wow, that is disgusting! Now consider that the same thing is happening with
the bums that build hospitals, and the scum that manufacture beds, and the
schools that teach medicine.

We need the government to do everything for free.


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"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:30:28 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
>>Sen. Harry Reid says the health care proposal coming form the Senate
>>will cost $2,000,000,000,000. It's caught on video too. Does that scare
>>you?
>
> Which is not saying that health care won't cost around that if the
> bill isn't passed.

Except that the government always underestimates the costs.


From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Oct 16, 7:42 am, "Kommienezuspadt" <NoS...(a)NoThanks.net> wrote:
> "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "Kommienezuspadt" <nos...(a)nothanks.net> wrote in message
> >news:4ad7c6ef$0$22237$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com...
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> >> "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad...
> >>> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know
> >>> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ...
>
> >>> The health insurance industry, along with major league
> >>> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States
> >>> with an anti-trust exemption.
>
> >> It has worked out well for the insurance industry -- for the consumer -
> >> not so much.
>
> > I'm wondering why it all of a sudden, is being mentioned
> > after a bill is through the finance committee. Some guy on
> > local talk said "that old thing" like it's no big deal.
>
> > I'm worried that health care is just like bank bailouts and
> > saving and loan scandal and billions of dollars missing in
> > military funds.
>
> > But on the other hand, I'm sure the money is being put in a
> > big fund to help vererans and the baby boomers retirement
> > and to save social security. Ha
>
> I'm a capitalist -- have been for 37+ years ---  but I heard the other day
> that the insurance industry takes in over 200 billion dollars in profits &
> overhead out of health care every year. Imagine that amount -- it is over
> twice what is being planned for giving coverage in the plans floating
> around.
>
> As for why now? I suspect it is partly fueled by anger over the insurance
> industry using half truths with a purposely flawed study to try to keep a
> strangle hold on their profits.
>
> I keep waiting for the free market types to defend this protection -- but so
> far I've only gotten insults from them -- must be they have not received
> their orders.

What % of total health care (actually delivered) do they cover for
that...and what % of total health care (actually delivered) does the
government cover...and what are the total costs of govt, including
*ALL* the bureaucracy and overhead involved, including fraud.