From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Oct 16, 7:02 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:30:28 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> >Sen. Harry Reid says the health care proposal coming form the Senate
> >will cost $2,000,000,000,000. It's caught on video too. Does that scare
> >you?
>
> Which is not saying that health care won't cost around that if the
> bill isn't passed.
>
> --
> "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
> than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
> to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
>
> - James Madison

Whatever it costs, it will be what the public is willing to pay rather
than what the government inposes.
From: Alan Baker on
In article <MPG.2542235f2962eaa098969c(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
> says...
> >
> > Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know
> > that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ...
> >
> > The health insurance industry, along with major league
> > baseball, are the only two industries in the United States
> > with an anti-trust exemption.
>
> Sen. Harry Reid says the health care proposal coming form the Senate
> will cost $2,000,000,000,000. It's caught on video too. Does that scare
> you?

Is that per day? Per week? Per century?

>
> Do you like the proposal from some in the House that says open up
> Medicare to everyone. The system already existst. The contracts are
> negotiated with the doctors and hospitals. No massive overhaul of the
> medical system. Just start pulling people into this "public option" now.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: gray asphalt on

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>> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know
>>>>> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ...
>>>>>
>>>>> The health insurance industry, along with major league
>>>>> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States
>>>>> with an anti-trust exemption.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It has worked out well for the insurance industry -- for the consumer -
>>>> not so much.
>>>>
>>> I'm wondering why it all of a sudden, is being mentioned
>>> after a bill is through the finance committee. Some guy on
>>> local talk said "that old thing" like it's no big deal.
>>>
>>> I'm worried that health care is just like bank bailouts and
>>> saving and loan scandal and billions of dollars missing in
>>> military funds.
>>>
>>> But on the other hand, I'm sure the money is being put in a
>>> big fund to help vererans and the baby boomers retirement
>>> and to save social security. Ha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm a capitalist -- have been for 37+ years --- but I heard the other
>> day that the insurance industry takes in over 200 billion dollars in
>> profits & overhead out of health care every year. Imagine that amount --
>> it is over twice what is being planned for giving coverage in the plans
>> floating around.
>>
>> As for why now? I suspect it is partly fueled by anger over the insurance
>> industry using half truths with a purposely flawed study to try to keep a
>> strangle hold on their profits.
>>
>> I keep waiting for the free market types to defend this protection -- but
>> so far I've only gotten insults from them -- must be they have not
>> received their orders.
>
> Wow, that is disgusting! Now consider that the same thing is happening
> with the bums that build hospitals, and the scum that manufacture beds,
> and the schools that teach medicine.
>
> We need the government to do everything for free.

What about the anti-trust exemption?



From: gray asphalt on

"Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote in message
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On Oct 16, 7:42 am, "Kommienezuspadt" <NoS...(a)NoThanks.net> wrote:
> "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
> > "Kommienezuspadt" <nos...(a)nothanks.net> wrote in message
> >news:4ad7c6ef$0$22237$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com...
>
> >> "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad...
> >>> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know
> >>> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ...
>
> >>> The health insurance industry, along with major league
> >>> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States
> >>> with an anti-trust exemption.
>
> >> It has worked out well for the insurance industry -- for the consumer -
> >> not so much.
>
> > I'm wondering why it all of a sudden, is being mentioned
> > after a bill is through the finance committee. Some guy on
> > local talk said "that old thing" like it's no big deal.
>
> > I'm worried that health care is just like bank bailouts and
> > saving and loan scandal and billions of dollars missing in
> > military funds.
>
> > But on the other hand, I'm sure the money is being put in a
> > big fund to help vererans and the baby boomers retirement
> > and to save social security. Ha
>
> I'm a capitalist -- have been for 37+ years --- but I heard the other day
> that the insurance industry takes in over 200 billion dollars in profits &
> overhead out of health care every year. Imagine that amount -- it is over
> twice what is being planned for giving coverage in the plans floating
> around.
>
> As for why now? I suspect it is partly fueled by anger over the insurance
> industry using half truths with a purposely flawed study to try to keep a
> strangle hold on their profits.
>
> I keep waiting for the free market types to defend this protection -- but
> so
> far I've only gotten insults from them -- must be they have not received
> their orders.

> What % of total health care (actually delivered) do they cover for
> that...and what % of total health care (actually delivered) does the
> government cover...and what are the total costs of govt, including
> *ALL* the bureaucracy and overhead involved, including fraud.

What about the anti-trust exemption. You believe in competition?


From: gray asphalt on

"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
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> In article <GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
> says...
>>
>> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know
>> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ...
>>
>> The health insurance industry, along with major league
>> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States
>> with an anti-trust exemption.
>
> Sen. Harry Reid says the health care proposal coming form the Senate
> will cost $2,000,000,000,000. It's caught on video too. Does that scare
> you?
>
> Do you like the proposal from some in the House that says open up
> Medicare to everyone. The system already existst. The contracts are
> negotiated with the doctors and hospitals. No massive overhaul of the
> medical system. Just start pulling people into this "public option" now.

What about the anti-trust exemption that the
health insurance industry has?