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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 16 Oct 2009 10:08 On Oct 16, 7:02 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:30:28 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >Sen. Harry Reid says the health care proposal coming form the Senate > >will cost $2,000,000,000,000. It's caught on video too. Does that scare > >you? > > Which is not saying that health care won't cost around that if the > bill isn't passed. > > -- > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace > to the legislature, and not to the executive department." > > - James Madison Whatever it costs, it will be what the public is willing to pay rather than what the government inposes.
From: Alan Baker on 16 Oct 2009 18:02 In article <MPG.2542235f2962eaa098969c(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com > says... > > > > Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know > > that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ... > > > > The health insurance industry, along with major league > > baseball, are the only two industries in the United States > > with an anti-trust exemption. > > Sen. Harry Reid says the health care proposal coming form the Senate > will cost $2,000,000,000,000. It's caught on video too. Does that scare > you? Is that per day? Per week? Per century? > > Do you like the proposal from some in the House that says open up > Medicare to everyone. The system already existst. The contracts are > negotiated with the doctors and hospitals. No massive overhaul of the > medical system. Just start pulling people into this "public option" now. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: gray asphalt on 16 Oct 2009 20:40 "The moderator" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message news:4ad87bd4$0$23769$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net... > > "Kommienezuspadt" <NoSpam(a)NoThanks.net> wrote in message > news:4ad86a2b$0$24351$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com... >> >> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:hySBm.11782$6q1.8874(a)newsfe17.iad... >>> >>> "Kommienezuspadt" <nospam(a)nothanks.net> wrote in message >>> news:4ad7c6ef$0$22237$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com... >>>> >>>> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad... >>>>> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know >>>>> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ... >>>>> >>>>> The health insurance industry, along with major league >>>>> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States >>>>> with an anti-trust exemption. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It has worked out well for the insurance industry -- for the consumer - >>>> not so much. >>>> >>> I'm wondering why it all of a sudden, is being mentioned >>> after a bill is through the finance committee. Some guy on >>> local talk said "that old thing" like it's no big deal. >>> >>> I'm worried that health care is just like bank bailouts and >>> saving and loan scandal and billions of dollars missing in >>> military funds. >>> >>> But on the other hand, I'm sure the money is being put in a >>> big fund to help vererans and the baby boomers retirement >>> and to save social security. Ha >>> >>> >>> >> >> I'm a capitalist -- have been for 37+ years --- but I heard the other >> day that the insurance industry takes in over 200 billion dollars in >> profits & overhead out of health care every year. Imagine that amount -- >> it is over twice what is being planned for giving coverage in the plans >> floating around. >> >> As for why now? I suspect it is partly fueled by anger over the insurance >> industry using half truths with a purposely flawed study to try to keep a >> strangle hold on their profits. >> >> I keep waiting for the free market types to defend this protection -- but >> so far I've only gotten insults from them -- must be they have not >> received their orders. > > Wow, that is disgusting! Now consider that the same thing is happening > with the bums that build hospitals, and the scum that manufacture beds, > and the schools that teach medicine. > > We need the government to do everything for free. What about the anti-trust exemption?
From: gray asphalt on 16 Oct 2009 20:41 "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote in message news:f642eb6f-1149-4ca3-861e-c06e7d8959d6(a)e8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com... On Oct 16, 7:42 am, "Kommienezuspadt" <NoS...(a)NoThanks.net> wrote: > "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:hySBm.11782$6q1.8874(a)newsfe17.iad... > > > > > > > "Kommienezuspadt" <nos...(a)nothanks.net> wrote in message > >news:4ad7c6ef$0$22237$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com... > > >> "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad... > >>> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know > >>> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ... > > >>> The health insurance industry, along with major league > >>> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States > >>> with an anti-trust exemption. > > >> It has worked out well for the insurance industry -- for the consumer - > >> not so much. > > > I'm wondering why it all of a sudden, is being mentioned > > after a bill is through the finance committee. Some guy on > > local talk said "that old thing" like it's no big deal. > > > I'm worried that health care is just like bank bailouts and > > saving and loan scandal and billions of dollars missing in > > military funds. > > > But on the other hand, I'm sure the money is being put in a > > big fund to help vererans and the baby boomers retirement > > and to save social security. Ha > > I'm a capitalist -- have been for 37+ years --- but I heard the other day > that the insurance industry takes in over 200 billion dollars in profits & > overhead out of health care every year. Imagine that amount -- it is over > twice what is being planned for giving coverage in the plans floating > around. > > As for why now? I suspect it is partly fueled by anger over the insurance > industry using half truths with a purposely flawed study to try to keep a > strangle hold on their profits. > > I keep waiting for the free market types to defend this protection -- but > so > far I've only gotten insults from them -- must be they have not received > their orders. > What % of total health care (actually delivered) do they cover for > that...and what % of total health care (actually delivered) does the > government cover...and what are the total costs of govt, including > *ALL* the bureaucracy and overhead involved, including fraud. What about the anti-trust exemption. You believe in competition?
From: gray asphalt on 16 Oct 2009 20:42
"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2542235f2962eaa098969c(a)news.giganews.com... > In article <GiPBm.13234$_l1.3867(a)newsfe06.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com > says... >> >> Ok, I'm not the most imformed person. I didn't know >> that BP was British Petroleum so maybe this isn't news ... >> >> The health insurance industry, along with major league >> baseball, are the only two industries in the United States >> with an anti-trust exemption. > > Sen. Harry Reid says the health care proposal coming form the Senate > will cost $2,000,000,000,000. It's caught on video too. Does that scare > you? > > Do you like the proposal from some in the House that says open up > Medicare to everyone. The system already existst. The contracts are > negotiated with the doctors and hospitals. No massive overhaul of the > medical system. Just start pulling people into this "public option" now. What about the anti-trust exemption that the health insurance industry has? |