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From: Carbon on 5 Sep 2009 07:21 On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:10:00 -0700, dene wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4aa1a178$0$23981$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:58:24 -0700, dene wrote: >> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> > news:4aa0d9ee$0$23966$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> >> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:41:17 -0700, dene wrote: >> >> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> >> > news:4aa043d7$0$4986$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> >> >> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:42:12 -0700, gray asphalt wrote: >> >> >> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> >> >> > news:4a9ef43c$0$5657$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> >> >> >> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:42:02 +0000, assimilate wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 1-Sep-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>>> No. Her career is mostly smoke and mirrors. She is largely >> >> >> >>>> incapable of rational thought. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> this is just silly. you've no doubt read all the >> >> >> >>> fashionable criticism and you think you know what she's >> >> >> >>> capable of. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bullshit. If you have any evidence of competence by all >> >> >> >> means share. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > She stood up to the big oil interests re: Alaska. Imo, she >> >> >> > has some character but doesn't have an education. >> >> >> >> >> >> She did some grandstanding and then she quit. Rinse, repeat. >> >> > >> >> > Ya know....you libs should clean up your own house first. The >> >> > platitudes Ted Kennedy received were ridiculous. He should have >> >> > been jailed for vehicular manslaughter, not to mention hit and >> >> > run. And now, Charles Rangel..... Apparently he forgot he had a >> >> > few hundred thousand dollars in a couple of accounts. >> >> > >> >> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/02/ >> >> AR2009090203082.html >> >> > >> >> > It's understandable....I've been known to leave some $$ in the >> >> > laundry bin. >> >> >> >> I do not care about Kennedy or Rangel. The discussion was whether >> >> Palin is capable of holding high public office, and she clearly is >> >> not. >> > >> > If either were Republican, you'd care. >> >> I really wouldn't. You've surely noticed that Kennedy is dead. Rangel >> appears to be a corrupt old coot like so many in Washington, but he >> is on his way out. Whereas Palin is today's news. She even has the >> potential to split the Republican party going into 2012. Go Sarah. > > Sarah is old news too. Just like Quayle. I hope so for your sake.
From: dene on 5 Sep 2009 09:40 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4aa24743$0$4943$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:34:43 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: > > On 04 Sep 2009 23:12:30 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > > wrote: > > > >>> Not at all. Just like Congress withdrew the "death panel" part of > >>> the health care legislation, the VA has withdrawn this booklet. > >> > >>I would not have done that. I would have sent people around to the > >>various media outlets to point at the ridiculousness of the death > >>panel astroturf campaign, to explain how it was funded, that it was > >>designed to appeal to retards, etc. > > > > I have no doubt that the purpose of the VA pamphlet, and the "End of > > Life Counseling" sessions, is to increase the probability that they > > (VA and Medicare) will get the chance to "pull the plug" on more > > people than they do now and thus save money. And I assure you that I > > am not retarded. > > > > BTW, it's not like you to be so crude. Perhaps you should find a way > > to insult people in a more sophisticated manner. > > I didn't mean that I think *you're* retarded, Greg. But putting dingbats > on FOX screeching about death panels is absolutely designed to appeal to > retards. It's exactly the same M.O. used in the birther campaign. The > Republicans have long indulged in such tactics, which is not surprising > given their demographics, but it's a bad sign that they have nothing > else. I have yet to hear a Republican say that there is any truth to death panels. Perhaps they have....I've not paid any attn. to it. O'Reilly certainly hasn't said it, nor has anyone on his show. Now....there is truth regarding medicare rationing, and if you're on the short stick of that deal, then perhaps the people who decide this could be considered a "death panel." -Greg
From: Howard Brazee on 5 Sep 2009 09:58 On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:00:07 -0700, "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote: >I, in no way support Palin, but it would be >easier to educate an ignoramus than to implant >a conscience into many of our current politicians. But harder than converting a True Believer. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Sep 2009 09:57 In article <7gf7ppF2pbe8dU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4aa24743$0$4943$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:34:43 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: > > > On 04 Sep 2009 23:12:30 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> Not at all. Just like Congress withdrew the "death panel" part of > > >>> the health care legislation, the VA has withdrawn this booklet. > > >> > > >>I would not have done that. I would have sent people around to the > > >>various media outlets to point at the ridiculousness of the death > > >>panel astroturf campaign, to explain how it was funded, that it was > > >>designed to appeal to retards, etc. > > > > > > I have no doubt that the purpose of the VA pamphlet, and the "End of > > > Life Counseling" sessions, is to increase the probability that they > > > (VA and Medicare) will get the chance to "pull the plug" on more > > > people than they do now and thus save money. And I assure you that I > > > am not retarded. > > > > > > BTW, it's not like you to be so crude. Perhaps you should find a way > > > to insult people in a more sophisticated manner. > > > > I didn't mean that I think *you're* retarded, Greg. But putting dingbats > > on FOX screeching about death panels is absolutely designed to appeal to > > retards. It's exactly the same M.O. used in the birther campaign. The > > Republicans have long indulged in such tactics, which is not surprising > > given their demographics, but it's a bad sign that they have nothing > > else. > > I have yet to hear a Republican say that there is any truth to death panels. > Perhaps they have....I've not paid any attn. to it. O'Reilly certainly > hasn't said it, nor has anyone on his show. > > Now....there is truth regarding medicare rationing, and if you're on the > short stick of that deal, then perhaps the people who decide this could be > considered a "death panel." > > -Greg That last is a red-wheel, you know, designed to take your eye off the subject. There is always medical rationing of one sort or the other going on. Hell, every damn health insurer is doing it right now.
From: Howard Brazee on 5 Sep 2009 10:05
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 22:03:56 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >Nonetheless, it's ridiculous to stereotype either side of the fence with the >fringe groups. The genuine concern/outrage over Obama care extends from >middle America who is largely insured and not interested in bailing out >uninsured segment of our population. They're not interested in giving approval for such bailing out. We're already paying for the uninsured, and paying more with them going to expensive hospitals than to cheaper clinics. It's not about money. >Also at fault is the lack of >leadership and clarity Obama has shown with this issue. All wallpaper....no >house. You're right, Obama's bosses are Big Business, same as Bush. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |