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From: Jack Hollis on 3 Sep 2009 19:59 On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:07:23 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >Fact is the comment hits the core of the "reform". they want to cut >costs, but not on the govt bureaucracy side, they want to cut costs on >the service to the public side. Here's a brochure used by the VA that was banned by Bush but reinstated by Obama called "Your Life, Your Choices." On page 4 is the following "Tell your loved ones and health care providers about your strongly-held beliefs and what kinds of care you would want in different situations." Right next to this are two comments. The first is, "Don't call 911 if my heart stops." The second is, "Are you sure?" The whole idea of this seems to be to increase the probability that when a veteran is unable to communicate, there will be someone else who will instruct the doctors to pull the plug. In the long run, the booklet will save the VA money. http://www.rihlp.org/pubs/Your_life_your_choices.pdf
From: dene on 4 Sep 2009 01:41 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4aa043d7$0$4986$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:42:12 -0700, gray asphalt wrote: > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4a9ef43c$0$5657$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:42:02 +0000, assimilate wrote: > >>> On 1-Sep-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> No. Her career is mostly smoke and mirrors. She is largely > >>>> incapable of rational thought. > >>> > >>> this is just silly. you've no doubt read all the fashionable > >>> criticism and you think you know what she's capable of. A little > >>> knowledge is a dangerous thing. > >> > >> Bullshit. If you have any evidence of competence by all means share. > > > > She stood up to the big oil interests re: Alaska. Imo, she has some > > character but doesn't have an education. > > She did some grandstanding and then she quit. Rinse, repeat. Ya know....you libs should clean up your own house first. The platitudes Ted Kennedy received were ridiculous. He should have been jailed for vehicular manslaughter, not to mention hit and run. And now, Charles Rangel..... Apparently he forgot he had a few hundred thousand dollars in a couple of accounts. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/02/AR2009090203082.html It's understandable....I've been known to leave some $$ in the laundry bin. -Greg
From: dene on 4 Sep 2009 03:13 "Jack Hollis" <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:44pi95hd4tnje9a3scebed1inifvme5k1d(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:16:13 -0700, "gray asphalt" > <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> There are some state that have such restricitive regulations that most > >> of the companies decide not to sell insurance in that state. > > > >I wonder if that is true. It is true, for sure, that companies > >are not allowed, by law, to sell out of their own state. > >Something like that. > > Any company can sell health insurance in a state that they are > licensed in. The company has to comply with the state regulations > which vary from state to state. Unfortunately, most state regulations > tend to increase the cost of insurance to the consumers because they > often have mandates as to what type of medical conditions must be > covered or they can mandate that insurance companies provide coverage > to everyone regardless of pre-existing conditions. Another common > regulation is called community rating, where everyone has to charged > the same price. This usually has the effect of lowering the price for > the elderly and rasing the price for the young. > > In some states, where the regulations are so restrictive, the > insurance companies choose not to sell insurance in that state. > > Here's a good article on how regulation effects health insurance > costs. > > http://www.heritage.org/research/healthcare/cda06-04.cfm#_ftnref13 Right on, Jack. In the '90's, a brilliant liberal legislature along with an idiotic, liberal insurance commissioner in Washington state championed a law that all applicants have to be accepted without regard to pre-exisiting conditions (just like Obama promises). People waited until they were sick, bought health insurance, and rates rose through the roof, correlating to horrific claims experience. (I know of one Oregon man who moved to Washington to get his open heart surgery paid for.) Anyway...the death spiral began, with young, healthy policyowners becoming uninsured. Finally, all the insurers quit writing new business. For two years plus, an individual could not buy health insurance. -Greg
From: Carbon on 4 Sep 2009 05:12 On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:41:17 -0700, dene wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4aa043d7$0$4986$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:42:12 -0700, gray asphalt wrote: >> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> > news:4a9ef43c$0$5657$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> >> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:42:02 +0000, assimilate wrote: >> >>> On 1-Sep-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> No. Her career is mostly smoke and mirrors. She is largely >> >>>> incapable of rational thought. >> >>> >> >>> this is just silly. you've no doubt read all the fashionable >> >>> criticism and you think you know what she's capable of. A little >> >>> knowledge is a dangerous thing. >> >> >> >> Bullshit. If you have any evidence of competence by all means >> >> share. >> > >> > She stood up to the big oil interests re: Alaska. Imo, she has some >> > character but doesn't have an education. >> >> She did some grandstanding and then she quit. Rinse, repeat. > > Ya know....you libs should clean up your own house first. The > platitudes Ted Kennedy received were ridiculous. He should have been > jailed for vehicular manslaughter, not to mention hit and run. And > now, Charles Rangel..... Apparently he forgot he had a few hundred > thousand dollars in a couple of accounts. > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/02/ AR2009090203082.html > > It's understandable....I've been known to leave some $$ in the laundry > bin. I do not care about Kennedy or Rangel. The discussion was whether Palin is capable of holding high public office, and she clearly is not.
From: The moderator on 4 Sep 2009 05:23
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message news:7gbnakF2opl2lU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4aa043d7$0$4986$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:42:12 -0700, gray asphalt wrote: >> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> > news:4a9ef43c$0$5657$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> >> On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:42:02 +0000, assimilate wrote: >> >>> On 1-Sep-2009, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> No. Her career is mostly smoke and mirrors. She is largely >> >>>> incapable of rational thought. >> >>> >> >>> this is just silly. you've no doubt read all the fashionable >> >>> criticism and you think you know what she's capable of. A little >> >>> knowledge is a dangerous thing. >> >> >> >> Bullshit. If you have any evidence of competence by all means share. >> > >> > She stood up to the big oil interests re: Alaska. Imo, she has some >> > character but doesn't have an education. >> >> She did some grandstanding and then she quit. Rinse, repeat. > > Ya know....you libs should clean up your own house first. The platitudes > Ted Kennedy received were ridiculous. He should have been jailed for > vehicular manslaughter, not to mention hit and run. And now, Charles > Rangel..... Apparently he forgot he had a few hundred thousand dollars in > a > couple of accounts. > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/02/AR2009090203082.html > > It's understandable....I've been known to leave some $$ in the laundry > bin. > > -Greg Democrats justify real crimes in their own party. They invent crimes and conspiracies against Republicans. Democrats appoint "Truthers" as Czars and call Republicans insane. |