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From: Jack Hollis on 7 Sep 2009 16:49 On 07 Sep 2009 16:21:09 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >If everyone in the US has access to the world's best healthcare, why is >the average life expectancy so much lower than Canada's? Hmmm? Life expectancy is a lifestyle issue. You can have the best health care but if most the population have unhealthy lifestyles, that's not the fault of health care. My doctor tells me to lose weight and stop smoking cigars every time I see her. I admire her persistence. Weak one Carbs.
From: BAR on 7 Sep 2009 17:19 William Clark wrote: > In article <2t-dnd7SI-IajDjXnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, > BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > >> William Clark wrote: >>> In article <7gj3dgF2pmajpU1(a)mid.individual.net>, >>> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:4aa4523f$0$4954$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:24:04 -0700, dene wrote: >>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4aa44eac$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:53:33 -0700, dene wrote: >>>>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:4aa3e396$0$4943$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:32:46 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 06 Sep 2009 14:43:39 GMT, Carbon >>>>>>>>>> <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:18:28 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 06 Sep 2009 02:38:47 GMT, Carbon >>>>>>>>>>>> <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In Canada if you're sick and you need expensive care, you get >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, period. >>>>>>>>>>>> Canadians get it all right, but not the way they think. >>>>>>>>>>>> Canada's health care rationing kills. >>>>>>>>>>> Spare me the bullshit. >>>>>>>>>> From the Canadian Supreme Court decision July, 2005. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Delays in the public system are widespread and have serious, >>>>>>>>>> sometimes grave, consequences," wrote Chief Justice Beverley >>>>>>>>>> McLachlin and Justice John Major. "Inevitably where patients >>>>>>>>>> have life-threatening conditions, some will die because of undue >>>>>>>>>> delay in awaiting surgery." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I assume that this decision came after a long trial with many >>>>>>>>>> expert witnesses followed by a period of deliberation. Now if >>>>>>>>>> the greatest legal minds in Canada say that the Canadian health >>>>>>>>>> care system results in people unnecessarily dying, then who am >>>>>>>>>> I, or you for that matter, to disagree. >>>>>>>>> I guess things didn't work out on rec.sport.soccer, huh? >>>>>>>> Nice diversion, Carbs, but why don't you address Jack's cite. >>>>>>> I have addressed Jack's bullshit ad nauseum in the past. Done with >>>>>>> that. >>>>>> Then don't criticize what he says. >>>>> Why the hell not? He's already worn this newsgroup out. There are plenty >>>>> more. >>>> I don't care about other newsgroups. If you want to refute Hollis's views >>>> and cites, counter them with your own cites, or perhaps ignore him >>>> completely. Trying to toss him from this NG is low class. You are better >>>> than that. >>>> >>>> -Greg >>> Why don't you ask him about his experience as a "student" at Columbia? >>> See if that is consistent with his other BS. >> Are you asking about Obama's undergraduate transcripts? We would all >> like to see them. I'm sure Obama was a charity case when he was >> "accepted" at Harvard Law and Obama's undergraduate transcript from >> Columbia will provide the proof. > > Of course you are sure. Your vast experience of the US university system > tells you that, doesn't it? Or do you just have a huge chip on your > shoulder because Obama go to go to Columbia (unlike Hollis) and Harvard, > and you never got to college? "becasue Obama go to go to Columbia" what the hell does this mean? Doesn't it suck when the apple bites back. You still didn't address the issue of Obama's undergraduate performance at Columbia. All evidence points to Obama getting into Harvard due to who he knew and not what he knew. Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I attended college.
From: Howard Brazee on 7 Sep 2009 18:01 On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:03:59 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: >This is incorrect. Millions in the US don't have health insurance. >Everyone in the US has access to health care. And we pay through the nose when the uninsured get treated. But some people would rather pay more, as long as they can avert their eyes from the fact that the wrong people are getting help. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 7 Sep 2009 18:03 On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:35:53 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >Of course, if the US goes the single payer route, it will become like >Canada with respect to services available. Or maybe not. I don't see anything in the single-payer plan that would indicate that. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 7 Sep 2009 18:06
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >So the US Constitution is what, 4 pages long? The house health care >bill is what, 1000+ pages long? When you allocate power you allocate >power. A bunch of excessive verbiage to satisfy the local hacks >doesn't change anything. They could have written the health care bill >on one page, but then it's intent would be naked...and we can't have >that...not only with the health care bill, but an bill anywhere these >days. The health care consists of a small single-payer bill plus what the congress critters' bosses have paid them to add, so that they will make money from it. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |