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From: Bobby Knight on 7 Sep 2009 18:15 On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:01:49 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: >On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:03:59 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> >wrote: > >>This is incorrect. Millions in the US don't have health insurance. >>Everyone in the US has access to health care. > >And we pay through the nose when the uninsured get treated. But some >people would rather pay more, as long as they can avert their eyes >from the fact that the wrong people are getting help. Some people who have a lot in life are also willing to make sure that those who cannot afford medical treatment get it. Along with that there will always be cheats, as there are in big business, government and any walk of life. BK
From: BAR on 7 Sep 2009 18:29 Jack Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:58:27 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > >> Are you asking about Obama's undergraduate transcripts? We would all >> like to see them. I'm sure Obama was a charity case when he was >> "accepted" at Harvard Law and Obama's undergraduate transcript from >> Columbia will provide the proof. > > His SAT and LSAT scores would be very interesting. You can get a > pretty good idea of IQ from both of those scores. I wonder why he > hasn't released them. We know why he hasn't released them. It would destroy the lefts perception of Obama. Remember when they found out that Bush had better grades than Kerry? They sure as hell aren't going to let that happen again.
From: Jack Hollis on 7 Sep 2009 19:47 On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:29:53 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: >Jack Hollis wrote: >> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:58:27 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: >> >>> Are you asking about Obama's undergraduate transcripts? We would all >>> like to see them. I'm sure Obama was a charity case when he was >>> "accepted" at Harvard Law and Obama's undergraduate transcript from >>> Columbia will provide the proof. >> >> His SAT and LSAT scores would be very interesting. You can get a >> pretty good idea of IQ from both of those scores. I wonder why he >> hasn't released them. > >We know why he hasn't released them. It would destroy the lefts >perception of Obama. Remember when they found out that Bush had better >grades than Kerry? They sure as hell aren't going to let that happen again. It's impossible to know what Obama's scores were. I don't take college or law school grades very seriously because they represent a certain amount of subjectivity. However, SAT and LSAT tests are standardized and correlate highly with IQ. It is true that Bush's GPA at Yale was better than Kerry's. Neither one of them won any honors. However, you never know how much either one of them spent cracking the books rather than partying. We do know Bush's SAT scores and they show his IQ to be in the superior (120-129) to very superior (130-139) range. If I had to bet, I'd bet against Obama being that smart, but that is only a guess. Obama did pass the Illinois bar exam on the first try but that's no huge accomplishment because around 2/3 to 3/4 of the people taking the test pass. BTW, his wife Michelle failed. The track record for Harvard Law is that over 95% of their graduates pass the bar.
From: Jack Hollis on 7 Sep 2009 20:00 On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:01:49 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: >On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:03:59 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> >wrote: > >>This is incorrect. Millions in the US don't have health insurance. >>Everyone in the US has access to health care. > >And we pay through the nose when the uninsured get treated. But some >people would rather pay more, as long as they can avert their eyes >from the fact that the wrong people are getting help. No doubt that the cost of treating the uninsured is passed on to the rest of us one way or the other.
From: William Clark on 7 Sep 2009 21:56
In article <1LCdnfuIP_N85TjXnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > William Clark wrote: > > In article <2t-dnd7SI-IajDjXnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4p2d(a)giganews.com>, > > BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote: > > > >> William Clark wrote: > >>> In article <7gj3dgF2pmajpU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > >>> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:4aa4523f$0$4954$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:24:04 -0700, dene wrote: > >>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:4aa44eac$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:53:33 -0700, dene wrote: > >>>>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>> news:4aa3e396$0$4943$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 11:32:46 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On 06 Sep 2009 14:43:39 GMT, Carbon > >>>>>>>>>> <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:18:28 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 06 Sep 2009 02:38:47 GMT, Carbon > >>>>>>>>>>>> <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In Canada if you're sick and you need expensive care, you get > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, period. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Canadians get it all right, but not the way they think. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Canada's health care rationing kills. > >>>>>>>>>>> Spare me the bullshit. > >>>>>>>>>> From the Canadian Supreme Court decision July, 2005. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> "Delays in the public system are widespread and have serious, > >>>>>>>>>> sometimes grave, consequences," wrote Chief Justice Beverley > >>>>>>>>>> McLachlin and Justice John Major. "Inevitably where patients > >>>>>>>>>> have life-threatening conditions, some will die because of undue > >>>>>>>>>> delay in awaiting surgery." > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I assume that this decision came after a long trial with many > >>>>>>>>>> expert witnesses followed by a period of deliberation. Now if > >>>>>>>>>> the greatest legal minds in Canada say that the Canadian health > >>>>>>>>>> care system results in people unnecessarily dying, then who am > >>>>>>>>>> I, or you for that matter, to disagree. > >>>>>>>>> I guess things didn't work out on rec.sport.soccer, huh? > >>>>>>>> Nice diversion, Carbs, but why don't you address Jack's cite. > >>>>>>> I have addressed Jack's bullshit ad nauseum in the past. Done with > >>>>>>> that. > >>>>>> Then don't criticize what he says. > >>>>> Why the hell not? He's already worn this newsgroup out. There are > >>>>> plenty > >>>>> more. > >>>> I don't care about other newsgroups. If you want to refute Hollis's > >>>> views > >>>> and cites, counter them with your own cites, or perhaps ignore him > >>>> completely. Trying to toss him from this NG is low class. You are > >>>> better > >>>> than that. > >>>> > >>>> -Greg > >>> Why don't you ask him about his experience as a "student" at Columbia? > >>> See if that is consistent with his other BS. > >> Are you asking about Obama's undergraduate transcripts? We would all > >> like to see them. I'm sure Obama was a charity case when he was > >> "accepted" at Harvard Law and Obama's undergraduate transcript from > >> Columbia will provide the proof. > > > > Of course you are sure. Your vast experience of the US university system > > tells you that, doesn't it? Or do you just have a huge chip on your > > shoulder because Obama go to go to Columbia (unlike Hollis) and Harvard, > > and you never got to college? > > "becasue Obama go to go to Columbia" what the hell does this mean? > Doesn't it suck when the apple bites back. It means because Obama got to go to Columbia, and you didn't. Or anywhere else. > > You still didn't address the issue of Obama's undergraduate performance > at Columbia. All evidence points to Obama getting into Harvard due to > who he knew and not what he knew. "All evidence"? Then I am sure you can produce a cite to "all evidence", can't you? I look forward to seeing this "evidence", which seems to me to amount to nothing more than the fact that Obama is black, and therefore in your mind cannot possibly have the intellectual make up to get into an Ivy League school. Or is this the second coming of the birthers? > > Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I > attended college. "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung than Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and small universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow. |