From: William Clark on
In article <7glta6F2puhgnU1(a)>,
"dene" <dene(a)> wrote:

> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-959208.21561407092009(a)
> > > Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I
> > > attended college.
> >
> > "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung than
> > Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and small
> > universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow.
> "Rung" huh? Is that how you evaluate people? Their education.

Well, since the discussion was about academic credentials, yes. In this
context. Bert and Jack seem to set so much store by them, and appear to
be so jaundiced by their own lack of them, that these are clearly their
> My golf/fishing buddy has a Master's degree in Business. He lays floor tile
> for a living. He's going through bankruptcy, hasn't been insured for years,
> and blows every dime he makes. Yet....according to you, he's on a higher
> plane than a high school educated 8-5ver who supports his family and pays
> his bills.

The MBA culture is a whole different story. Just look at the chain of
financial disasters that have led this country into recession, and they
are fueled by MBAs and their ilk. It isn't so much their academic
shortcomings that are the problem, since many of them are quite bright,
but their ethical standards are the pits.
> BTW....Billy. Did you pay for any of your education was it handed to you?

"Handed to me" as in what way? Do you have any idea how competitive
university admission in the UK was in the '60s and '70s? I thought not.
From: Carbon on
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:49:10 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> On 07 Sep 2009 16:21:09 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)>
> wrote:
>> If everyone in the US has access to the world's best healthcare, why
>> is the average life expectancy so much lower than Canada's? Hmmm?
> Life expectancy is a lifestyle issue. You can have the best health
> care but if most the population have unhealthy lifestyles, that's not
> the fault of health care. My doctor tells me to lose weight and stop
> smoking cigars every time I see her. I admire her persistence.

Uh huh. You're actually suggesting that lifestyle differences between
the US and Canada are so radically different that they alone account the
dramatic difference in life expectancy? Because that seems like quite a
stretch in a continent with similar language, culture, diet, etc.
Especially when all you offer in support is bullshit anecdotal evidence.

It seems you accidentally deleted the link showing how much worse the
average life expectancy is in the States compared to Canada. Here it is
again. Read it this time. Feel free to send any corrections to the CIA.
From: Carbon on
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:00:24 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:01:49 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard(a)>
> wrote:
>>On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:03:59 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)>
>>>This is incorrect. Millions in the US don't have health insurance.
>>>Everyone in the US has access to health care.
>>And we pay through the nose when the uninsured get treated. But some
>>people would rather pay more, as long as they can avert their eyes
>>from the fact that the wrong people are getting help.
> No doubt that the cost of treating the uninsured is passed on to the
> rest of us one way or the other.

Which (obviously) is why it's cheaper to just give everyone health
insurance and be done with it.
From: Carbon on
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:36:26 -0400, Jack Hollis wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:58:27 -0400, BAR <Screw(a)You.Com> wrote:
>>Are you asking about Obama's undergraduate transcripts? We would all
>>like to see them. I'm sure Obama was a charity case when he was
>>"accepted" at Harvard Law and Obama's undergraduate transcript from
>>Columbia will provide the proof.
> His SAT and LSAT scores would be very interesting. You can get a
> pretty good idea of IQ from both of those scores. I wonder why he
> hasn't released them.

For the same reason that he didn't release his birth certificate to
those birther loons: there is no upside to pandering to retards.
From: gray asphalt on

"Jack Hollis" <xsleeper(a)> wrote in message
> On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
> <frostback2002(a)> wrote:
>>Obama, FWIW, needs to
>>come clean on these issues, and either deny Holdren and Emanuel
>>outright, or justify the value of their approaches as potential
> It's not an accident that Obama is surrounded by extreme left-wing
> radicals. I have no doubt that Obama was, and is, more inspired by
> Karl Marx than Thomas Jefferson.

Do you think Karl Marx's ideas were bad or was it that the
ideas just weren't workable and that the implementation of
them let to a dictatorship? It seems that the idea of communism
is how families work and that an extention of that is a natural
development in thinking. I haven't read any of Marx though.
Since Communism primarily exists in China, and we don't call them
"Communist China" anymore, I guess because of our trade with
them and that they own more of our debt than anyone else might
be a factor ...

I haven't heard Obama say anything favorable about communism
and it was Nixon that opened relations with Red China.