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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 8 Sep 2009 13:37 On Sep 7, 9:24 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:wclark2-959208.21561407092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I > > > attended college. > > > "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung than > > Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and small > > universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow. > > "Rung" huh? Is that how you evaluate people? Their education. > > My golf/fishing buddy has a Master's degree in Business. He lays floor tile > for a living. He's going through bankruptcy, hasn't been insured for years, > and blows every dime he makes. Yet....according to you, he's on a higher > plane than a high school educated 8-5ver who supports his family and pays > his bills. > > BTW....Billy. Did you pay for any of your education was it handed to you? > > -Greg I was talking to the guy who does my floors. He thinks the undergrad degree he got is worthwhile, but he knows someone with a masters degree who only makes $60K per year, and thus in HHO, the advanced degree proved worthless.
From: Bobby Knight on 8 Sep 2009 13:53 On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:37:43 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >On Sep 7, 9:24�pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >> "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message >> >> news:wclark2-959208.21561407092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >> >> > > Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I >> > > attended college. >> >> > "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung than >> > Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and small >> > universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow. >> >> "Rung" huh? �Is that how you evaluate people? �Their education. >> >> My golf/fishing buddy has a Master's degree in Business. �He lays floor tile >> for a living. �He's going through bankruptcy, hasn't been insured for years, >> and blows every dime he makes. �Yet....according to you, he's on a higher >> plane than a high school educated 8-5ver who supports his family and pays >> his bills. >> >> BTW....Billy. �Did you pay for any of your education was it handed to you? >> >> -Greg > >I was talking to the guy who does my floors. He thinks the undergrad >degree he got is worthwhile, but he knows someone with a masters >degree who only makes $60K per year, and thus in HHO, the advanced >degree proved worthless. Of course there are situations where a degree makes no difference in one's success. However, any degree will advance a person's overall knowledge and perhaps make them more employable, and certainly more well-rounded. BK
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 8 Sep 2009 13:57 On Sep 8, 1:36 am, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "Jack Hollis" <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > news:ki38a5p0ombr0tjfg7p6am76ch5v4cnasm(a)4ax.com... > > > On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr > > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > >>Obama, FWIW, needs to > >>come clean on these issues, and either deny Holdren and Emanuel > >>outright, or justify the value of their approaches as potential > >>policy. > > > It's not an accident that Obama is surrounded by extreme left-wing > > radicals. I have no doubt that Obama was, and is, more inspired by > > Karl Marx than Thomas Jefferson. > > Do you think Karl Marx's ideas were bad or was it that the > ideas just weren't workable and that the implementation of > them let to a dictatorship? It seems that the idea of communism > is how families work and that an extention of that is a natural > development in thinking. I haven't read any of Marx though. > Since Communism primarily exists in China, and we don't call them > "Communist China" anymore, I guess because of our trade with > them and that they own more of our debt than anyone else might > be a factor ... > > I haven't heard Obama say anything favorable about communism > and it was Nixon that opened relations with Red China. Karl Marx's ideas are just p[lain bad because the assumptions he made about human biology are just plain wrong. One of the things that turned me away from the left was and is the left's response to sociobiology. Sociobiology predicts, with lots of supporting data, that for animals such as ourselves, selfish behavior wins out in the end. Sociality is in fact selfish; ie we as individuals do better when we behave socially than when we do not. This is not being friendly or anything like that, but working together to get things done; friendly, or whatever it takes, is another issue. With a private business, you have to be social; you and your customer have to work together and if no one cheats, each has to get a benefit from it to satisfy the prerogative of selfishness. Of course people can cheat, and they do; but you can regulate against cheating. With the govt, the people in power are supposed to selflessly work for the benefit of the people; but what do they get for it? In fact, in the extreme, everyone works for the benefit of each other, not for themselves. Each according to his need, each according to his ability. So Clarkie should live in a dorm room at OSU, eat in the caf and travel via public transportation while engaged in earth shattering discoveries (at least he seems to think he is at that level). Socialists seem to feel that we can somehow evolve into this sort of thing. You see writing by philosophers like Kitcher and Sober supporting this altruistic evolution stuff, and they sound like creationists. Of course these guys are philosophers, not scientists. No evidence that this evolution to altruism is possible, but we should give credence to "alternate theories". In fact, like creationists, they have decided what is true and want science to affirm it no matter what. Philosophically related loons actually assaulted E.O. Wilson, the originator of the main presentation of sociobiology as he presented the idea...like they do any time anyone speaks with authority against the paradigms of the loony left. The Soviets once tried to impose this sort of thing using Lamarckian evolutionary ideas through a murderous loon named Lysenko, murdering scientists who dared disagree with him, and Baker can look him up if he needs the reference, as he can for anything I say here! I am here to comment, not to educate! In any event, there is no doubt in my mind that humans will never be altruistic in that way. We will serve our own self interest. It's why free enterprise economies outproduce state controlled economies and it's why democracies win in the end. People will do more out of self interest than any other motivation, and to try to force some social theory based on 100% invalid science is a disaster, always has been a disaster and always will be a disaster. China only began to grow when it allowed independent business, and it will stagnate to the degree that the state retards individual development.
From: William Clark on 8 Sep 2009 14:02 In article <l5uca5d39v9sqb069e2dkooaruvri6es2i(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > On 08 Sep 2009 06:30:26 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > > >> His SAT and LSAT scores would be very interesting. You can get a > >> pretty good idea of IQ from both of those scores. I wonder why he > >> hasn't released them. > > > >For the same reason that he didn't release his birth certificate to > >those birther loons: there is no upside to pandering to retards. > > Actually he did release his birth certificate. It is in the public records. He didn't have to "release" anything.
From: William Clark on 8 Sep 2009 14:03
In article <ffde25f2-d72d-4a64-b6c7-9ebe2e623568(a)o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > On Sep 7, 9:24�pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:wclark2-959208.21561407092009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > > > Wrong again Billy I attended college. I never received a degree but, I > > > > attended college. > > > > > "Attended" but got no degree? That puts you on an even lower rung than > > > Palin. She at least got something after six community colleges and small > > > universities, albeit a degree in communications. Wow. > > > > "Rung" huh? �Is that how you evaluate people? �Their education. > > > > My golf/fishing buddy has a Master's degree in Business. �He lays floor tile > > for a living. �He's going through bankruptcy, hasn't been insured for years, > > and blows every dime he makes. �Yet....according to you, he's on a higher > > plane than a high school educated 8-5ver who supports his family and pays > > his bills. > > > > BTW....Billy. �Did you pay for any of your education was it handed to you? > > > > -Greg > > I was talking to the guy who does my floors. He thinks the undergrad > degree he got is worthwhile, but he knows someone with a masters > degree who only makes $60K per year, and thus in HHO, the advanced > degree proved worthless. I can only conclude, from his complete lack of understanding of statistics, that he is a biology graduate from Mississippi College. |